Wednesday, June 08, 2005

Oh Civ Pro II, Wherefore Art Thou Civ Pro II

What the hell is personal jurisdiction? What the hell is subject matter jurisdiction? I couldn't be happier when Bundy said, "This is all for Civ Pro II, just know that courts need jurisdiction." But now that I have to discuss minimum forum contact I'm starting to wonder. And in general therein lies the secret to the Federal judiciary. What takes us a semester (sometimes two) to comprehend is decided after several days of inefficient westlaw research.

Stay tuned for my discussion of judicial philosophies.


Blogger Tom Fletcher said...

Tell it to my Federal Officer Removal Statute problem.

Fucking Boalt and not having Civ Pro II available to us in the first year... >:(

6/09/2005 7:31 PM  
Blogger wt said...

Civ Pro II is probably the less useful of the two Civ Pros for the first summer.

I have a feeling that the school assumes that knowing the FRCP is more important than knowing the relatively seldom-used fora defenses (personal J, subject J, forum non conveniens).

But if you absolutely need to learn, you may want to plunk down the money for the Glannon's right away, which will teach you the basics efficiently and clearly.


6/11/2005 6:00 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

I didn't buy outlines when my grades depended on it, and I'm not about to start for the sake of justice.

6/11/2005 9:36 AM  
Blogger wt said...

I like where yor head is on this one.

But the Glannon's Civ Pro is probably the only commercial outline that I'd say is near- mandatory. When you face Erie, and everyone else around you eventually achieves realization, you're going to turn to the dark side.

The only other near-mandatory commercial outline is the Aspen Con Law Hornbook written by Chemerinsky.

If you think you might need either of these for your summer job, go ahead and buy them early.

6/11/2005 3:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does not seem as though very many people are participating in this blog. Are you reading? I want to know if wt's comments are just a personal opinion. Does anyone else have an opinion?

6/12/2005 11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you're asking about commercial outlines, I'm going out on a limb here to say that wt's posts are "just [his] personal opinion[s]."

He has no empirical studies, logical proofs, or scientific support for his commercial outlines suggestions.

His blog comments have never been been peer-reviwed, nor have they caught the attention of the main-stream media.

Caveat Emptor.

6/13/2005 9:04 PM  
Blogger Armen said...

I have never burst out laughing while reading this blog, but man...

6/13/2005 9:50 PM  

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