Thursday, September 01, 2005

My Two Cents

De Novo co-blogger PG notes that Columia Law's dean has offered to take in a few students from Tulane law who are obviously not sitting in class and writing blog posts (which is a huge problem given the stringent ABA class time requirements).

I think we can do the same. Given Chancellor Birgenau's e-mail, I don't think Dean Edley will have any trouble convincing the higher brass to accept a handful of Tulane students for the semester and waiving tuition for them. I'm inclined to write to the Dean if there is support from the Boalt community. Hell I'd even pay for part of the airfare of getting them out here.

Update: Add UT to the list. (hat tip: Leiter)

Update II: This commenter on Drum's Blog expresses a thought I had today while watching the news:

"It seems clear to me that the buses shouldn't be going to Houston, but somewhere closer temporarily, where this is food and water. People should be taken to a staging area maybe an hour out of town, so that everyone can be removed in a matter of a day or so.

Then, move them to Houston without having them waiting for their ride in the midst of hell.

Can't someone in charge think of this shit?"

Update III: And there's the nutcase solution to the problems. I think for a split second, the conservatives can get off the property rights high horse and return to reality. I'm just glad co-conspirator Orin Kerr points out the obvious flaws in such a worldview, however, I join this commenter in suggesting that this should not even be a debate and add that Kopel should return to stroking his gun on a rocking chair. But more substantively, here's an idea that's sure to give the nutcases a heart attack. How about we suspend the 2nd Amendment in times of crises (the 14th seems to have gone by the way side) and just arrest and throw the book at any civilian caught with a weapon. What a marvelous idea.

Update IV: As a commenter points out below, Boalt has indeed stepped up to the plate. In pertinent part:

Boalt has joined a number of U.S. law schools in stepping forward to offer assistance by accepting into our community and our classes a limited number of students from Tulane and Loyola for the fall semester. "Our response to this emergency is only 24 hours old and there are a myriad of details to address but we hope to have these students arriving at Boalt by mid-September," said Boalt Hall Professor Andrew Guzman, who proposed and is assisting in organizing our offer to the displaced students. Boalt is also considering other ways our community may be able to assist the student visitors, such as with housing, books, etc.

An emergency website address has been set up for Tulane Law School: http://Tulane.law.emory.edu.

Tulane and Loyola students seeking further information on Boalt's offer of assistance may contact Boalt Hall Dean of Students Victoria Ortiz, 510-643-3057, vortiz@law.berkeley.edu.


I applaud Prof. Guzman and Dean Ortiz. Now we need to host these students and actually get them here. A flight to Oakland from Houston on Southwest is around $200 for Sept. 6. Any steamers who want to chip in, e-mail me ASAP so that I can tell Dean Ortiz that we have at least one student covered. I also suggest people do the same within their mods.

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13 Comments:

Blogger Tom Fletcher said...

That was an idea I had in class today too. THerefore, it is not crazy. I say go for it . . .

. . . [attempt at humor] but we'll see if they can get over their little civil law fetish.

9/01/2005 4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/news/topstories.html#katrina
Boalt steps up to the plate.

9/01/2005 6:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! So Boalt, which is the poorest top law school around, is offering 20 or so spots to the hurricane victims. Columbia Law School, in all of its gilded glory, can only offer a measly 5 spots. Something seems wrong here. I hope Boalt alumni realize that Boalt's got a big heart and is ready to step up to the plate when disaster hits. Open up those checkbooks, law partners!

9/02/2005 12:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm an alum - not a rich one, alas, but I'd be happy to donate to a fund to help pay those students' airfare and relocation expenses. Please keep us posted.

9/02/2005 1:40 PM  
Blogger Armen Adzhemyan said...

To 12:15:

We have snug roofs over our heads, law textbooks on our shelves, and comfy lunches c/o the Law and Tech society. And dare I forget posh interview slots with top notch firms. Compared to the students who'll be arriving we're kings. The hell with partners, why don't YOU open up your checkbook. I know I'm opening mine.

To alumni in the area, I'm going to quote part of Dean Ortiz's e-mail just sent out to the students.

"All of us in student services are counting on you, of course, to become instant welcoming committees! Working with BHSA, we will plan some sort of reception or activity to welcome the visitors more formally, but in the early days we know you will be there to lend class notes, give building tours, perhaps even provide temporary housing.

Please contact Holly Parrish at hparrish@law.berkeley.edu if you have room for someone on a couch, if you have an extra room and would like a roommate, etc. etc. Feel free to contact her with any ideas you have that might contribute to making the transition easier for our guests."

9/02/2005 3:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to Update II re: staging areas an hour or two outside of town...

The problem with this plan is that there is no place an hour or two outside of town that has the resources to deal with an influx of refugees. Up to two hours to the north is the same area that was hit by Katrina and they have their own problems, not to mention no large population centers anyway. The same thing goes for one to two hours east of New Orleans--most of those roads aren't even passable due to hurricane damage. That leaves heading west as the only option. To Baton Rouge you say--already inundated with people that had the means to leave pre-Katrina.

We're talking about tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people. What good does it do to drop them off in a place that's only marginally better equipped to give these people food and water? I could see this strategy working if and only if the problem was transportation and there wasn't enough to get people back and forth--meaning that buses were spending time on the road instead of picking people up, which is definitely not the case.

Houston is only 5 hours outside of the Big Easy, not that that does any good right now as the astrodome is full and refugees are being shipped to San Antonio and Dallas.

9/03/2005 8:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Online rumor that this petition is being passed around at Boalt. Any truth to it?

"We, the undersigned, understand that it is our duty to accept displaced students due to Hurricane Katrina. At the same time we worry about the academic rigor and prestige of our program. We therefore ask the administration to assure us of the follow:


* Transient students' grades will not affect our curves;

* Transient students will NOT (no matter their placement) be able to enroll full-time;

* Transient students will NOT be eligible for positions on any journal...."

9/06/2005 11:52 AM  
Blogger Armen Adzhemyan said...

I personally have not seen it, but if it is, then it's an absolute disgrace. Actually it's beyond disgrace. Not sure if there's a word, but I'd hate for "Boaltish" to come to stand for such behavior.

9/06/2005 12:04 PM  
Blogger Armen Adzhemyan said...

Can you point me to this rumor via a link of some sorts?

9/06/2005 12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Here
is a link where you can offer housing to Tulane students spending this semester at Boalt

9/06/2005 1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Though I now see that it would be better to go through Holly Parish!

9/06/2005 1:20 PM  
Blogger Allen L. said...

I'd like to link over on Calstuff and One, and contribute to your fund if still possible. Is there a PayPal link or something?

My contact info is over on Calstuff.

9/06/2005 11:16 PM  
Blogger Armen Adzhemyan said...

Allen I appreciate this, but I'm waiting for word from Dean Ortiz on whether any students need to be ferried over.

Certainly this doesn't prevent any Tulane or Loyola students from contacting me directly.

9/07/2005 12:15 AM  

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