Boalt Basics (ASP Session)
Remember the last lecture on Boalt Basics? Kiddos, this is not 'Nam. This is dining. There are rules. Here is a black letter re-cap: No, no, no, no, NO!
Labels: 0L/1L Advice
posted by Patrick Bageant at 11:47 AM
24 Comments:
do 1Ls even read this blog?
and it's good to see V*tter is still up-right.
I'd say the first time, this was a funny little quirky post. But taking a picture? Blurring faces? You're not actually trying to change the situation, are you? Because that's some serious control issues. Let it be, man. Just let it be.
You're creeping me out, man.
Walter Sobchak: Has the whole world gone crazy!? Am I the only one here who gives a sh*t about the rules!? Mark it zero! You think I'm f*cking around? Mark . . it . . ZERO!
. . . Also Dude, let's not forget, let's NOT forget that keeping wildlife, um... an amphibious rodent, for... um, you know domestic... within the city... that ain't legal either.
Weren't you a park ranger?
But in all seriousness, this needs to be nipped at the bud. It's like some sort of weird zombie virus brought over by transfers. Kidding.
can someone please answer my question in the townhall post comments? thanks.
curious alum
the new line orientation is liberating. it's progressive. it's audacious. the future belongs to the 1Ls. the older students should gracefully cede on this issue. thank you in advance.
I've always felt that tradition for tradition's sake is a terrible, terrible thing if better alternatives existed.
What are the arguments on both sides here?
It's tradition for the sake of common sense. Not tradition for tradition's sake.
Arguments for East-West LIne:
Ppl in E-W line are parallel to the counter, nicely tucked out of the way of passerby
E-W line means ppl don't have to cross through the line to get to 3/4 of the tables, the back patio, or the cooler
Ppl in E-W line don't lurk awkwardly and loudly over tables of ppl trying to visit/study/enjoy their nice cup of coffee
Excess line spills conveniently into hallway, not into back wall
Arguments for North-South Line:
Audacity
if it's good enough for Jan V, it's damn good enough for anyone.
Patrick's 3rd argument for the east-west line is reason enough alone for me to agree with him. (Also I'm a 3L who doesn't want to adjust to any more changes.)
You know, at first I laughed at this. But then these comments make it seem like we're ACTUALLY debating some kind of Cafe Zeb line-forming policy.
Then it really reminded me of the LA Times article about the Berkeley Bowl and how everybody there thinks it's OK to get in everyone's business and try to force everyone to do things the way they think it should be done ("You shouldn't use plastic bags," "Calling the grocery store a meat market is sexist," "You've been standing in front of the nectarines too long," etc.)
And you know, if anybody reads this and thinks it represents the student body, it actually kind of makes us look like whiny, privileged freaks who will find anything to criticize. And it's not like we have a shortage of LEGIT things to complain about abound here right now.
So I'm just going to believe this is all a joke. And we're just kvetching in a funny way. Right?
Note to 5:53. For future reference, pointing out that something is a joke ruins the joke.
I like the point that the line running out into the hall blocks the counter where they put the sandwiches, making people waiting around the counter for their food awkwardly loitering around the people in line. The NS line solves that.
Maybe a compromise is needed here? Maybe 4 ft. of NS line, then a 90 turn to an EW line? Maybe those velvet lane ropes? Maybe we could all sit on the counter and refuse to come down until they concede to our demands of a $6 million fund to research the affects of and raise awareness for line formation?
When the line runs along the counter it permits people standing in line to contemplate the menu.
i knew this was coming after i saw your face at Zeb.
ps: i <3 Toney's solution(s).
Isn't Jan V supposed to have retired? Why is he still around??
Dude, why can't we ... like ... abandon lines altogether? Why must we be strapped to these mechanistic, capitalistic, industrial notions of order? Why can't we all be free, like butterflies?
You know, I seem to remember a time, we'll call it, last year, where some 1Ls decided to attack Boalt traditions. Specifically, they ignored the age-old axiom that 1Ls are neither to be seen, nor heard. In fact they may have even hijacked blogs, catastrophically recreated Boalt briefs, and I seem to remember an awful situation with someone initialed AA.
Good morning class. A certain...agitator...for privacy's sake let's call her...Lisa S. No, that's too obvious...uuuh, let's say L. Simpson. -- Principal Skinner
Hah, I should have been more specific. Wasn't talking about you Armen, you weren't around for this particular AA.
The E-W line blocks the pick up counter, especially at lunch when it reaches gaggle like proportions. People have to awkwardly hover at the amenities station, creating blob-like mobs, blockingt he station from innocent coffee-goers trying to cream their drinks, and otherwise sucking. A N-S line to the second aisle that then goes either E-W into the hall or, W-E out into the back patio, is way more sensible than the current setup.
I'm with 1:30; the 1Ls will rule the day.
See here.
The easiest way to solve this is for people to stop eating at Zeb. I dont remember the line being this long this late into the semester in previous years. Usually by now all the 1Ls have learned to venture off campus for food or go snag free lunch at meetings.
Zeb's great and all, but come on people, eat somewhere else occasionally!
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