Friday, November 14, 2008

HRC as SoS?

Rumors were that she was in consideration. Now Nico Pitney at HuffPo is reporting that she has been offered the job, and that she has asked for time to "consider".

Two things:
  1. While I didn't support Clinton in the primary, there is no doubt that she is tough as beans, and has the street cred to represent the United States on the world stage admirably.
  2. I'm not personally offended that I wasn't offered this position, as I'm still holding out for Secretary of Awesome.
Thoughts?

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20 Comments:

Blogger Boris said...

How common is it to see this many members of the house / congress move up to a new administration? Obama, Biden, Emanuel, and now possibly Clinton (or Kerry). That's quite a list already.

11/14/2008 2:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic question. Do professors actually give out sub p's in upper level classes or do most people at least get a P?

11/14/2008 2:36 PM  
Blogger Toney said...

I can tell you one thing... Members of Congress will not get appointed unless there is a Democratic Governor to replace them, or at least a law saying that a governor has to replace the outgoing Congressman with one of the same party.

2:36 - don't worry about sup p's.

11/14/2008 2:53 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

After reading Newsweek's "Secrets of the 2008 Campaign," I'm a little less confident in Hilary's ability to effectively manage an office, let alone the state department.

I mean I like her as a politician and senator, but Sec of State seems a weird fit. I'm still holding out for her replacing Reid as majority leader.

11/14/2008 3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How did this unfunny "Toney" person become a blogger on N&B?

11/14/2008 4:08 PM  
Blogger Toney said...

:)

60% of the time, the things I say are funny every time. Anyone? Anchorman? No?

btw, Drudge and Cnn are both picking this up now.

11/14/2008 4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2:36, as mentioned above I wouldn't worry to much about getting below a P. I have never heard of anybody actually getting anything below that. I'm sure it happens but I think it is more for utter incompetence. Somebody correct me if I am wrong but that is my understanding of the topic.

11/14/2008 4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anchorman stole that from Yogi Berra...

11/14/2008 6:42 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

2:36, I think it could happen if you like never went to class or read the book (not as unusual as you might think, ahem). But if you've done at least a minimal amount of prep, I'm sure you're well within P-range.

11/14/2008 7:41 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

Hey Toney, where'd you learn your sense of humor? Serious school?

Ooooh! Burrrrrrn!

11/14/2008 7:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I took tax a couple years ago, something like 10% of the class got sub-Ps and I was absolutely shocked because I had always heard it was close to impossible to even give the grade (like the prof had to write a letter or something), but apparently not. I still think it's exceptional, though, and most profs won't give them absent exceptional circumstances.

11/15/2008 10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:32, your professor wasn't Rkowski was it? Please say no.

11/15/2008 10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prof. Ch*per gave either 2 or 3 sub-Ps in his Con Law class two semesters ago. It really depends on the prof.

11/16/2008 11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umm, back to HRC...I feel like its a slap in the face of the people who didn't vote for Obama, only to be told that he'd be our president too. Seems like he is simply being the Democrat's president. Which is perfectly fine, generally. However, when I am led to believe that we would perhaps find a more bipartisan government, I think it is suspect to put one of the most divisive figures in politics at the head of the state department. Any thoughts? Is there anyone on this site who didn't vote Democrat anyways? (I'll go hide now.)

11/17/2008 8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is 8:47 suggesting Arnold Vinick for SoC? ;-)

11/17/2008 10:03 AM  
Blogger Toney said...

8:47 - Here are my thoughts on this. We were promised bi-partisanship from the Bush administration fairly consistently throughout his 8 years, and yet never once did he so much as extend a fig leaf towards the Democrats. This goes even further when you look at his appointments - over 150 Fed. Gov. appointments from Regent Law School? Nothing against the folks there, but there are literally over a hundred higher-ranked schools to pick from. Their motto is "Christian leadership to change the world". That pretty much goes against every tenet of US law. My point: compared to what we've had to go through the last 8 years, Obama will (probably) be much more bi-partisan.

This isn't to say he won't be much more progressive. He is a Democrat after all, and the contrast will be particularly stark because he is a more liberal Democrat than Clinton even, and Bush was extremely conservative. But the fact that he's talking about appointing the likes of Chuck Hagel, Dick Lugar, Susan Collins, and even McCain would indicate that he is feeling more bi-partisan than Bush, though we'll have to see if any of these appointments actually happen.

As far as being divisive goes - in politics, if half the people don't hate you, then half the people don't know you. The only reason people might consider another SoS less divisive than HRC is because the other candidates haven't been put through the ringer quite as much.

11/17/2008 10:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, 8:47, some of the people who didn't vote for Obama were Hillary supporters - at least here in PA they were. So appointing her SoS isn't so much a slap in their face as it is a big ol' hug.

11/17/2008 11:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In other news, this informal survey on Above the Law indicates that over 40% of associates at Bay Area firms expect to bill under 2000 hours in 2008 (compared with around 28% in 2007). While the Bay Area seems on par with New York, Boston, and Texas, associates in LA, DC, and Chicago look like they're doing a bit better.

http://abovethelaw.com/2008/11/associate_life_survey_time_mac.php#more

Granted, some people might be choosing Bay Area firms that have better "lifestyles" and lower average hours, but at some point the basic laws of supply and demand have to kick in - it seems like if you're billing under 2000 hours, your job security might be more tenuous. I wonder if this means more layoffs are coming?

11/17/2008 11:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, but you were talking about the OTHER non-Obama voters... Yeah, he'll be your President, too. But do you seriously believe that a few cabinet appointments will make them (you?) happy? What is your definition of "non-partisan"?

11/17/2008 11:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel pretty good in saying that anyone who chooses McCain over Obama because they are pissy about Hillary are politically as mature as a snail.

Or maybe you choose McCain because of the amazing female presence on his ticket. Which would be worse than option 1.

11/17/2008 10:14 PM  

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