Post-MPRE Love
The sentiment around Oakland's Alameda County Conference Center around noon today was that the MPRE this time around was either (a) harder than usual or (b) something we all should have actually studied for.
Here's a thread for post-examdiscussion bitching.
PS: anyone else realize in the process how much Barbri this summer is going to suck?
PPS: any ideas for drinking away our sorrows tonight (or other sorrows that will likely develop as today drags on)?
Here's a thread for post-exam
PS: anyone else realize in the process how much Barbri this summer is going to suck?
PPS: any ideas for drinking away our sorrows tonight (or other sorrows that will likely develop as today drags on)?
Labels: Bar Exams
posted by tj at 2:03 PM
17 Comments:
i didn't study that much but i thought it was a decent test. there were about 7-10 questions i wasn't completely sure about.
dude, everyone, every year, thinks this exact same thing and unless you put in less than 1 hour studying, you're fine.
I was kind of mad when I realized that the minimum passing score went up January 1, 2008. If I'd known, I think I would've taken it last November--especially since my PR class didn't cover the model rules at all.
According to the Cal Bar, a scaled 79 (the old passing score) required between 28 and 33 correct answers. I don't know what that translates to under the new passing score (86) but I think we can probably miss like 10-12 safely.
No, wait. I kept reading. They were CONSIDERING bumping it to a required scaled score of 100. They said a 100 would've required between 32 and 37 correct answers, depending on the exam. So for an 86, we can probably miss more than 12.
Tough test. I should have studied for more than 6 hours.
The MPRE and Barbri don't really compare. Everyone treats the MPRE like a joke, so then when it isn't a cakewalk, everyone gets worried. You go into Barbri knowing the Bar isn't a joke, so when studying and taking it aren't a cakewalk, you're ready for it.
Good luck to all you who took the MPRE today.
If there were issues on the test that weren't covered in my MPRE prep lecture, I would be grateful if you let me know what those issues were. Thanks.
John Steele
steele.john@gmail.com
don't everyone panic. A scaled 86 generally translates -- conservatively speaking -- to somewhere around a 60 percent correctness rate. Lower in some years, but it's never been higher. So if you're feeling bad about even 20-25 of the 60 questions, you are *probably* still safe.
knock on wood.
yeah, the MPRE sucked. but like other people said, everyone says that every year, so maybe we're ok?? i sure hope so.
Steele, I didnt take your review class, I took one by a professor that I bought on ebay - but the topic I felt like I didnt know - was the rules of mediation and the lawyer as third-party neutral. Specifically, there was a question about a lawyer acting as a partisan mediator, and another about bein a mediator in a divorce, and I had never heard of either.
Prof. Steele, first, thank you for for the review class. I really appreciated it.
A couple of topics in hindsight that may have been stressed a little bit more on the exam than in your outline were:
fees,
when does "Go get independent legal advice." absolve you of possible wrongdoing (that fact seemed to appear a lot), and
whether there are any circumstances where being a "solo practitioner" changes how you should act.
There were also more questions about judges than I expected. Apparently a judge can't solicit donations for her campaign at all--even if she has a committee to manage them. And a judge can't commend or criticize a jury for their verdict. I learned those two while I glanced through somebody's discarded Chemerinsky outline while I was waiting for my ride.
Yes, lots of questions about judges. Neither last Saturday's review course, nor the review book I bought covered many of these issues. And I didn't have the foggiest idea about the partisan mediator question.
Many had issues with the "Partisan Arbitrator" question. I also thought it was another MPRE trick and immediately thought "an arbitrator cannot rep a party in a matter if he/she already acted as an arbitrator for that same party. However, after consulting with the BarBri outline, a partisan arbitrator is an exception to this rule and thus, a partisan arbitrator can later rep the same party. Those *exceptions* kill you. Hopefully many thought what I thought and answered incorrectly. Apparently a wrong answer can be considered correct if many testtakers choose that answer. I love writing abt the MPRE. I wish I had more to talk abt so that I can make this abnormally long post even longer. I need a girlfriend.
Does anyone know if it really takes five weeks to find out the results?
Scores are up!
I got a 107. yay.
That doesn't sound too enjoyable!
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