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posted by Carbolic at 7:03 PM
One of the Republican strategists on CNN just said "All we need is the Supreme Court and we can pull this off."
I can hear the car horns and cheering throughout the streets of Berkeley. This is simply amazing. Now, here's hoping California doesn't disappoint on Prop 8. If that's voted down, I'm going to be one ecstatic American.
Tracking the status of the propositionsanyone else pissed that this lovely state of ours seems to care more about rights of animals than equal rights of human beings (and overwhelmingly at that)?!?
hooray for him and for us. (and, isn't it spelled Barack with a "c" in there somewhere?)
9:27 here, here's the correct link.
Americans do not care more about animals that humans. But they may care about torture than about marriage.
I was in a rush! Fixered now.
Right now, Prop. 2 leads 62%, and Prop. 3 is behind at 49.6%.9:27, you also got to love that values chickens higher than children.
clearly californians have their priorities straight. /sarcasm. *shakes head* how can people take one giant step towards equality (electing the first black president) and then take an equally giant step backwards by stripping people of their equal rights under the law all in one breath/ballot?
varty: because the 5000 Californians who would have tackled prop 8 went to Nevada every weekend for a monthto volunteer for Obama. To win a state he didn't need.
As hard as it is to acknowledge, TJ is totally right. Prop 8 had no ground game in California, and television ads, while cute and fun to talk about, don't win votes. Ever.
Barack Obama. As I remarked to a friend of mine earlier tonight, I don't feel giddy or celebratory or ecstatic. I feel very, pleasantly calm. I had no idea how much the Presidential election was eating at me, and now that it seems resolved, well, it feels very nice.Proposition 8, though, comes like a kick in the stomach. There is no need to dwell on it right now, but god damn. Do we as a people still have a long way to go, or what?
I guess Californians like telling other Californians what is right and wrong. That is, gay marriage is wrong; putting animals in overcrowded cages is wrong.
Why can't we lament the passage of prop 8 without shitting on prop 2! This is very hurtful to those of us who worked very hard on BOTH campaigns.
If you people have learned nothing from the prop 8 fiasco it should be this one thing: STOP THE HATE, and that includes towards those who went to Nevada (how could they have known we didn't need that state; they should be commended for doing what they did), and towards animals and those who worked hard to pass Prop 2. It's time for us to come together, not keep hating. You are no better than the people who voted yes if you keep it up.
umm...chill out 8:49, no one's causing flame wars here but you. No one is hating, just commenting about disappointment. as to the people who went to nevada, no one's hating on them. it's just an ironic statement of fact. And what's so wrong with me being upset that californian's in general refuse to grant equal rights to fellow californians but overwhelming choose to recognize rights for animals? I'm not saying animal cruelty is right or that prop 2 was wrong (though I'm not going to lie, i voted against it - mostly because of the economic ramifications on the poor). All I'm saying (along with others on this thread) is that as a people, equal rights to humans should rank higher on the priority lists. But then again, that just may be me.
But why need we even talk about priorities? The two props had nothing to do with each other. It's not as if you had to vote no on prop 2 in order to vote no on prop 8. They are not mutually exclusive, so why even bring it up? And I bet you that 99% of the people who voted yes on Prop 2 would rank humans higher than animals.
I, for one, am sick of hearing about Prop 8. It's just marriage people, it's not life and death.
10:37, How ignorant. Imagine if you could not marry the person you loved. I think that would feel like death to a lot of people out there.
Not getting married is like death? Wow -- a little extreme, no? It's just a piece of paper. I live with the person I love and don't ever plan on getting married because I don't need a church or the state to validate my relationship. Also, I don't see anyone up in arms because polygamists can't marry the people they love, even though they are completely consenting adults and hurting no one. I definitely voted no on prop 8 but only because I really don't care who marries whom, as long as no one is being coerced or they are underage, but there are a lot of more important issues going on the country, like the fact that people are dying from lack of health care and parents are losing their sons and daughters in a senseless war. I would like to see Berkeley rally around those issues, instead of around a measure that really just gives more people tax breaks.
If you think Prop 3 actually helps children, you know nothing. Prop 3 is the most ill-thought measure on the ballot along with Prop 9. They should both lose.
Dean Edley's been tapped for the transition team advisory board:http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000002983499&cpage=2
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