"It's a War Zone"
Contra Costa Times article suggesting that, thanks to our ridiculously high graduate fees, Boalt is able to attract and retain high-profile faculty. That said, the article also suggests retention is a constant struggle:
"I have three (offers to Berkeley professors) that I'm worried about right now from Harvard," said Edley, who himself was lured from Harvard in 2004 to lead Boalt Hall. "And three more that are likely to develop from top-five schools in the next year.Er, right. Is that why a young hotshot like G. L-ster makes more than an old standby like B. B-rring?
"It keeps the pressure on, but it's infinitely better than having a faculty that no one wants."
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posted by Patrick Bageant at 3:46 PM
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Wonder who the three faculty are?
With all respect to B.B--ring, he's a professor by way of being a particularly proficient (and charismatic) law librarian. He doesn't really publish the kind of things that would get other law schools interested.
Shel*n*ki is one.
I believe T l e y is another
T*ll*y and L*st*r are both visiting at HLS.
Harvard can have him (and his tight, tight pants). I, for one, don't need a piece of that action.
Aren't M*rphy and AJO going to be visiting NYU, Columbia, and Harvard next year (M*rphy at NYU and HLS and AJO at CLS and HLS, I believe)?
who is AJO
ann* j*seph O'con*ell
These sta*s are the stupidest fucking thing I've seen on this blog. Why are we protecting these delicate geniuses from the tyranny of Internet searches? Their chosen profession is to write stuff for the public and the academy. Why do we need to "hide" them from how the public (e.g. us) responds?
i don't mean to be brash, but CARBOLIC, you are a damn idiot.
your post pitting organizations against one another was completely nonsensical and unnecessary instigation. i'm glad you got what was coming to your dumbass self in boalt briefs. now, you attack berring, who epitomizes so much of what boalt is about. you're a douche and should stop posting now.
I thought that boalt briefs article was great, but I read it from the perspective of carbolic being the author.
In any event, his point about BB is valid, if hard to accept. BB is a great professor, but in the law professor market, schools take into account published articles and other factors that affect a schools' rankings. It may not be fair, but neither is Mark Teixeira making more than five times what Carl Crawford is making.
To those of you bashing B*b B*rr*ng, shut the fuck up. If a faculty member's contribution to the school was measured solely by contributions to academic research, and not contributions to teaching, administering, and making Boalt a great place, you might have a valid argument. But if that were the case, Er*c T*ll*y would be among our superstars. (Plus, B*rr*ng is among eleven Boalt profs that have won UC Berkeley's distinguished teaching award.)
Matt, that's really out of line. Nobody here is bashing BB. The fact remains that hotshot high-profile-publishing professors make more. End of story. Nobody is saying he doesn't contribute to the school as much as other professors or that he doesn't make Boalt a better place than other professors. The distinguished teaching award proves that.
Take a couple deep breaths; I think you'll realize that this conversation is constructive and not personal (regardless of how fair BB's salary is).
Matt's right. Boalt would not be Boalt without BB. Period.
The commentary on whether BB deserves his salary is stupid. More likely he is paid less because of UCB's policy of resetting junior faculty salaries to COLA -- this phenomena (older profs receiving lower salaries than newer profs) occurs in EVERY department. The reset of the baseline pay means normal tenure-track salary advancements outpace pre-existing tenured salary levels, which is how you get divergence. We have Noble Prize winners making less than new faculty. It's the reality of Berkeley HR.
As for the professor v. law librarian distinction, I think BB's contributions as law librarian do not diminish his contributions as faculty. In other schools, the law librarian is also well-compensated and a member of the faculty, even if the volume of article production is different (and also because they tend to write on legal research and education, just as clinical profs tend to right on clinical ed, and less on what we think of as "academic" publishing). Basically, I think it's mixing apples and oranges to try to compare different academic niches without context.
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