Wednesday, February 25, 2009

NALP's Fall 2008 "Perspectives"

NALP has issued some "Perspectives on Fall 2008 Law Student Recruiting" (large pdf). Basically, NALP says last fall was a crappy time to be a 2L.

The linked pdf contains a lot of information (er, "perspectives") but to my mind there are really only two relevant perspectives when you get down to brass tacks: employed, and not-employed. The rest is number-crunching:
The most dramatic impact of the current economic situation on legal employment opportunities can be seen in the numbers that describe the fall recruiting of 2Ls. Across employers of all sizes, the median number of offers extended dropped dramatically from 15 to 10. At the largest firms, firms with more than 700 lawyers firmwide, the median number of offers dropped from 30 to 18.5. Similarly, the percent of callback interviews resulting in offers for summer spots fell precipitously to 46.6% from a figure that had hovered at or above 60% for three years. Not surprisingly, the offer acceptance rate also jumped. At 32.5%, it is the highest rate recorded since 2002.
First, cheers to you, NALP, for saying "situation" and not "climate." Second, those numbers caught me off guard. They are certainly in line with popular wisdom about last fall’s hiring, but they seem a bit at odds with experience – at least at Boalt. My sense is that callbacks from Boalt’s fall OCIP,1 which occurred before and during the market collapse, went out at a rate similar to last year. There is no need to speculate because the CDO has data to back this up (I filled out their survey, didn't you?), but my sense is that we did far better than schools that hold OCIP in, say, October. There is inertia to institutional decision-making, including hiring decisions, and it can require a real affirmative effort to change course once a large organization has made a decision. (Cite Thelen, which was scheduling callbacks for the last few weeks of the firm’s existence.) Perhaps I’m wrong about everything I’ve said up until here, but if I’m not, the timing of Boalt’s 2008 OCIP helped some of us catch the last train out of town.

If correct, that’s good news for my class but it bodes ominous for the class of 2011. If there is pressure at many firms to keep summer classes small because money is tight, and if there is an inertia to hiring trends, then the batten-down-the-hatches mindset is unlikely to change between now and September. On the other hand, I doubt firms that scale back their summer class sizes do so uniformly across law schools. My guess is that even in a shrinking market Standford, Boalt, and UCLA will be feeder schools for BigLaw USA. Chapman and Loyola?  Not so much. So, to those of you in the class of 2011 who chose Boalt for its career- and door- opening opportunities down the line: good call. Your decision may pay off sooner than you think.


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1 "OCIP" or "OCI"? "OCIP Process" is downright inexcusable, but I go back and forth on the acronym. Help!

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8 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets talk about what we need to do to get an offer at the end of the summer:

1. Not get too drunk at events, Check

2. Don't hit on Partners' wives, Check

3. ?

2/25/2009 10:37 AM  
Blogger Toney said...

I prefer "OCIPP Process".

3. ?

4. Make profit!

2/25/2009 10:41 AM  
Blogger Armen Adzhemyan said...

Patrick, as I've said before, I think NALPs rule changes helped bring about this clusterf*ck in recruiting. Under the earlier rules, candidates had until I think Dec. 1 to accept or decline, and firms held offers open until that date. So the only drawback to Boalt's relatively late OCIP season was less time to meaningfully decide between firms. The new rules outright punish late interviews. Now recruiting resembles more and more like a law school application process. Sure you can start late, but you risk applying for fewer spots. So to that end, I think your class got a very big break with earlier recruiting.

As for the the effect on you guys...comparing Boalt to even UCLA is a bit misleading. UCLA students' jaws drop when they see the list of firms that visit us. The proper comparison is to years past. What's the average number of offers? Any offers rescinded? What are the numbers like for permanent offers after the summer?

Toney, props on the reference.

2/25/2009 10:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so you're saying that partners' husbands are fair game?

2/25/2009 12:27 PM  
Blogger McWho said...

Patrick, just because they did well during OCI(P) does NOT mean that they will get offers with the same frequency as previous years. So the pain may still be to come (and next year fall OCI(P) for 3Ls will be AWFUL.)

10:37, I hope you are a 2L that hasn't gone through the summer associate thing yet.

It isn't all roses anymore. Get ready to put out better work product, and more of it, than your other summers. Also make sure that you are sociable etc. with people at the firm.

That said, I would not hit on the Partner's wife (or daughter).

2/25/2009 2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be nice if there was a presentation this spring about what we can do to increase our chances of getting an offer. Can't lie I am a little bit nervous.

2/25/2009 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last year there WAS a CDO presentation with tips for getting an offer. Keep your eyes open.

2/25/2009 5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe it will be tougher in this economy to get an offer, but the advice on how to get an offer is nothing earth-shattering. Proofread all your work (more than 1 time), be social and go to a lot of the events (even when your firm stresses that you don't have to, because they will), and get people to like you by being a nice, respectful person.

It sounds simple because it is. There are almost always going to be a couple of your fellow summers who slack off on assignments, etc who won't get offers. Just don't be one of those people. I had about 90 people in my summer class, and one of my friends (not from Boalt) didn't get an offer b/c this person repeatedly didn't Bluebook his work and didn't proofread it. So yes, those people exist.

2/25/2009 6:41 PM  

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