Sotomayor Talking Points
Such a fight would make them look ridiculous and juvenile. The following talking points should explain why:
GOP Argument 1. Sen. Inhofe has already released a statement saying it's his job "to weigh her qualifications and character as well as her ability to rule fairly without undue influence from her own personal race, gender, or political preferences."
Talking Points:
-- Neither Republicans nor Democrats made any such offensive suggestion during the nomination of then-Judge Alito by accusing the Italian-American from New Jersey of possibly being biased in favor of mob bosses.
-- Both of President Bush 43's picks had service in Republican administrators. Why didn't Republicans raise concerns about their political preferences clouding their judgments?
-- See also Sen. Lindsay Graham quote below.
GOP Argument 2. A variation of argument 1, but be prepared for language implying "lack of intellect" or things along those lines essentially signaling to the base: "Hey, she's an AA baby."
Talking Points:
-- She has the same education credentials as Alito, longer judicial service than Roberts, and a more varied career than Rehnquist. By any measure, she is more than qualified to sit on our highest court.
GOP Argument 3: Liberal.
Talking Points:
-- Elections have consequences.
-- More specifically, the words of Senator Lindsay Graham during the Roberts Confirmation Hearings apply more than ever:
To me, the central issue before the Senate is whether or not the Senate will allow President Bush to fulfill his campaign promise to appoint a well- qualified, strict constructionist to the Supreme Court and, in this case, to appoint a chief justice to the Supreme Court in the mold of Justice Rehnquist.
He's been elected president twice.
He has not hidden from the public what his view of a Supreme Court justice should be and the philosophy that they should embrace.
In my opinion, by picking you, he has lived up to his end of the bargain with the American people by choosing a well-qualified, strict constructionist.
You have been described as brilliant, talented and well- qualified, and that's by Democrats.
The question is, is that enough in 2005 to get confirmed? Maybe not.
Professor Michael Gerhardt has written an article in 2000 called "The Federal Appointments Process," and I think he has given some advice to our Democratic friends in the past and, maybe recently, about the confirmation process that we're engaged in today.
And he has written, "The Constitution establishes a presumption of confirmation that works to the advantage of the president and his nominee."
I agree with that. Elections matter.
We're not here to debate how to solve all the nation's problems. We're not here to talk about liberal philosophy versus conservative philosophy and what's best for the country. We're here to talk about you and whether or not you are qualified to sit on the Supreme Court, whether or not you have the intellect, the integrity and the character.
And it has been said in the past by members of this committee -- Senator Kennedy -- I believe it's recognized by most senators that we're not charged with a responsibility of approving justices if their views always coincide with our own. We're really interested in knowing whether a nominee has the background, experience, qualifications, temperament, integrity to handle the most sensitive, important and responsible job. And that's being on the Supreme Court.
If you're looking for consistency, you've probably come to the wrong place, because the truth of the matter is that we're all involved in the electoral process ourselves and we have different agendas.
GOP Argument 4: Supreme Court [will/has] reverse Sotomayor in Ricci.
Talking Point:
-- And the Supreme Court reversed Roberts in Hamdan while he was sitting as the Chief Justice. So what? Frankly, that case had far more significance by defining constitutional limits to the executive war powers, as opposed to the more limited issue of firefighter exams.
GOP Argument 5: She wants to make policy based on her Duke commencement address.
Talking Point:
-- No. And in full context, even conservatives agree she is absolutely right. The Circuit Courts are the most important branch of the federal judiciary because they are the final arbiters ofu the vast majority of issues that arise in federal courts.
GOP Argument 6: She's still racist. See Berkeley Speech.
Talking Point:
-- No. See full quote. And with respect to taking statements out of context, see current Ranking Member Sen. Jeff Sessions during the Roberts hearings: "But as you have already seen, our confirmation process is not a pretty site. Time and again, you will have your legal positions, your predecisional memoranda -- even as a young lawyer -- distorted or taken out of context."
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Feel free submit your anticipated GOP Arguments and talking points.
UPDATE: Here is Judge Sotomayor's full speech at Berkeley. I do not understand how anyone with 3 functioning neurons can take that statement as anything other than a tongue-in-cheek remark given the rest of the speech. Also, I didn't know she was a classmate of our own Prof. RM. And if RM's torts lectures are any indication, the statement was soaked with sarcasm.
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Modification to GOP Talking Point 4:
She ruled in Ricci because she was Hispanic.
Talking Point: Prove it.
I really encourage everyone to read the more complete version of the Berkeley La Raza speech that was posted on VC (link a couple threads down). I'm sure there are more complete versions floating around, but wow, in context its about 70% opposite from the single quote that was thrown around a lot today.
yes, the full speech has context and other statements that make that one sentence not a problem. anyway, is it possible that the sentence was delivered as a gentle joke at her own expense? it easily could have been delivered that way.
the other GOP talking point is, "Roberts and Alito had over the top qualifications and yet the junior senator from Illinois voted against them."
i could see the GOP hurting themselves, but could also see them waiting for the next nomination to fight all out.
RE argument 1: Alito never said his Italian-American heritage would or could influence his decision making or make him a better judge. Sotomayor's comment about the perspective of a "wise Latina woman" seems to suggest as much.
U.S. Department of Transportation uses "Hispanic" to describe persons of Portuguese descent.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/civilrights/faq.htm#q2
I know that people may use it differently, and that this may have little bearing on whether we consider Cardozo "Hispanic," but it's a "for what it's worth" toss-out.
Republicans maybe taking a different angle? [here]
"Alito never said his Italian-American heritage would or could influence his decision making or make him a better judge."
Except that he sort of did:
"ALITO: Senator, I tried to in my opening statement, I tried to provide a little picture of who I am as a human being and how my background and my experiences have shaped me and brought me to this point.
ALITO: I don't come from an affluent background or a privileged background. My parents were both quite poor when they were growing up.
And I know about their experiences and I didn't experience those things. I don't take credit for anything that they did or anything that they overcame.
But I think that children learn a lot from their parents and they learn from what the parents say. But I think they learn a lot more from what the parents do and from what they take from the stories of their parents lives.
And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position.And so it's my job to apply the law. It's not my job to change the law or to bend the law to achieve any result.
But when I look at those cases, I have to say to myself, and I do say to myself, "You know, this could be your grandfather, this could be your grandmother. They were not citizens at one time, and they were people who came to this country."
Not really the same. That comment pertains to the experience of an immigrant, not a member of a particular ethnic group. And he doesn't say that being a recent descendant of immigrants leads him to substantively different results, just that it leads him to be more cautious in reaching his decisions.
Can you imagine how ugly it would have been for him if he had said he hoped a "a wise Italian-American" could make better decisions that some other generic white person or, heaven forbid, a Latina?
See talking point to Argument 6 + Update. In fact, Alito and Sotomayor are saying the exact same thing...your verbal gymnastics notwithstanding.
anyone noticed the not-so-whispered whisper campaign that she's not smart enough for the job? That's all they've got...pathetic
what alito is saying is in no way "as a wise italian-american male, my decisions will be better."
unfortunately, obama's now had to get out in front of sotomayor's statement and disown it. so it looks like the statement will be playing a major role.
I long for the good old days when nominees or any ideological persuasion were confirmed with near unanimity if qualified. (Qualification measured by years of service, temperament etc.) But the confirmation battle has become increasingly politicized, and Republicans have not forgotten efforts to derail the Roberts and Alito noms, let alone the battles over Bork and Thomas. One can certainly make a good (though not indisputable) argument that the Democrats have been the worse offenders regarding bringing politics, personal attacks and other arguably irrelevant matters into the Supreme Court nomination process. Barack Obama, who not only voted against Roberts (along with only 21 other senators) but supported a filibuster of the Alito nom, is reaping what he sowed with any opposition.
Alito and Roberts were picked because they were perhaps the most qualified conservative jurists out there. Sotomayor may be as qualified but it's no mystery that the nomination process proceeded something like as follows 1) we really want woman 2) she should also be a minority if possible 3) look at qualifications. 1) and 2) might have been switched but does anyone really doubt that it happened this way? Further is it any more invalid for Republicans to express concern over such a process than it is for Obama to vote against Alito and Roberts for vaguely articulated ideological reasons?
That said I think Republicans should take the high road and a step toward making the nomination process more civil, by overwhelming voting to confirm. But it must be noted that Democrats are largely at fault if they don't.
"That comment pertains to the experience of an immigrant, not a member of a particular ethnic group"
Except that it did. Here's the rest of the statement, made immediately after the above:
"ALITO: And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account."
"When I get a case about discrimination" is not "when I get a case about anti-Italian discrimination."
When he says that he takes into account the discrimination his family suffered, he does not say "as a wise Italian-American male, I make better decisions than [other demographics]."
Anyway, debating the point may be moot. Obama has condemned the sentence and people in the adminitration are leaking to the press that Sotomayor herself will say that she misspoke. The best strategy is to admit that the sentiment was inappropriate but that you have to judge her on her enormous successes and excellence rather than on one inappropriate comment.
Did Sotomayor ever actually say "when I get a case about anti-Latino/a discrimination, I will make better decisions about it, or I will be more sympathetic to the plaintiff"? I don't think she did. You are turning that statement into a caricature of her. Her statement was obviously in the context of why it is a good thing to have diversity in the judiciary, NOT about why she will use her ethnicity to consciously make different decisions while judging. I agree that it isn't the best sound bite, but come on, pay attention to the context.
Re Berkeley Speech: What can you expect from a speech made in Berkeley?
For comments to that effect, see: http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=474165
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