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We talked earlier this week about a thread for today's clerkship calls - here it is. Your tales, trials, and tribulations are particularly welcome.
Update: if you haven't read The Rat Race: Insider Advice on Landing Judicial Clerkships (pdf) by Judge Aldisert and two former clerks, now is not too late. Much of the article is devoted to how to land an interview in the first place, but the Judge also explains how his chambers goes through the selection process, what makes or breaks a telephone call, and how to seal the deal should you be fortunate enough to land an in-person interview. Of course, not all chambers are the same, but at a minimum the article marks a good place to begin.
Best of luck to all!
Update: if you haven't read The Rat Race: Insider Advice on Landing Judicial Clerkships (pdf) by Judge Aldisert and two former clerks, now is not too late. Much of the article is devoted to how to land an interview in the first place, but the Judge also explains how his chambers goes through the selection process, what makes or breaks a telephone call, and how to seal the deal should you be fortunate enough to land an in-person interview. Of course, not all chambers are the same, but at a minimum the article marks a good place to begin.
Best of luck to all!
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posted by Patrick Bageant at 10:32 AM
24 Comments:
Earl Warren called at 10 AM sharp. I let it go to voicemail.
I forgot to set up my 'Hey, Macarena' ring tone to go off in Admin Law today at 10:15. Dammit!
I sent about 80 applications, half paper and half online. I haven't heard a thing and now I'm starting to second-guess how competitive I was for some of the judges I applied to. Carbolic says if I don't hear by noon I won't hear at all, but Carbolic is also a passive aggressive drama queen who thrives on negativity. Is he right?
11:18, it's absolutely untrue that if you don't hear by noon you won't hear at all. A prof told me he spoke to a few N.D. Cal. judges who didn't expect to call until next week. And I think that is pretty common for district court judges.
My one attempt to "parlay" was a qualified success -- I was told to call the judge back when I get to town to see if any slots had opened.
Good luck everyone!
I agree with 11:18 and disagree (as usual) with Carbolic. Some judges don't call today. Some judges may not even call next week. This scenario will make you jumpy everytime your phone rings over the next couple weeks, but this is unfortunately the way the dance goes.
If you got a call today, congrats. If you didn't today, don't write yourself off yet.
99 apps, 18 recommender calls, 0 rings so far.
Ditto 2:19 but with a few less apps.
One call early this a.m., and none since.
My phone was unusually active (including one wrong number from a city I applied to), but nothing from a judge. At least, I really hope they weren't trying to offer me an interview in Spanish...
8:03:
Please stop being a racist. Thanks.
9:24 --how was 8:03 being racist? it's a fact that telemarketers are annoying.
It might be that this year, more judges than usual will call later than on opening day. I don't know what the norm is, but I'm pretty sure that last year, judges (and their clerks) had a week to select applicants to call. This year, they had from Tuesday morning until Friday morning, meaning judges didn't get a weekend to review their final lists of applicants.
Ugh, here's hoping that 9:24 was joking. The meaning was clearly "I hope I didn't miss out on an interview that was being offered to me in Spanish," not "I hope nobody would ever try to offer me an interview in Spanish."
Is there any sort of consensus about how many interviews a person needs to have lined up in order to feel reasonably confident that she will actually get an offer somewhere? Or can such things even be estimated?
11:52 I don't know for sure but I did an interview pre-hiring plan and was rejected, so I think it's safe to say that one interview probably isn't enough.
I've heard of judges granting 8 interviews for 4 slots and I've heard of judges doing 32 interviews for 2 slots, so this may help you figure out your odds. But then again, as the days wear on people will get offers with other judges and cancel interviews, so your odds are probably better than those.
I don't understand the racism jokes. Are they a reference to some past N&B brouhaha?
8:19 I'm as perplexed as you.
No more calls today.
Top 10-15% and looks like I'm striking out with ~150 D Ct. and CoA clerkship apps. Ah well!
Two interviews today, one rejection. Would like to hear from people having better luck than me.
How do you know you were rejected? Do they usually call or send rejection letters after an interview?
I received a call from the judge's JA telling me he had extended offers to other applicants and those applicants accepted.
Is an update on the judicial clerkship search in order? Or have we collectively decided that the less the outside world knows about Boalt's clerkship success, the better?
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