Fall 2010 Courses
Someone asks:
This is also an appropriate place to discuss the new ranking policy, which you can find here (scroll to section 3.07, about halfway down the page).
Can we have a thread to complain about the newly released Fall 2010 class schedule?Yup. Here it is.
This is also an appropriate place to discuss the new ranking policy, which you can find here (scroll to section 3.07, about halfway down the page).
Labels: Classes/Professors, Rankings And Associated Bullshit
posted by Patrick Bageant at 10:38 AM
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what's so bad about it? i'm a (hopefully) graduating 3L and haven't really dug into it...
I'm curious why so man adjuncts are teaching classes in relation to tenured professors. Is it because its cheaper?
There are like no Friday classes. That is pretty fucking amazing. It is like the school wants us to have a day off.
So fall semester is the last time they're offering Corporations II, and it conflicts with about five other business law courses... What the f*ck?!
My $.02:
For those of you going into litigation, I would try to take:
1. Advanced Legal Research (I never took this one, and wish I had.)
2. Pre-trial civil lit
3. Civil lit
4. Depositions
Unless you are going into something super specific, like IP or tax, the classes in a specific field are, frankly, worthless. I would focus on the practical courses so you will have an idea of what a partner or supervisor is saying when he/she gives you your first assignment.
I have had many "wtf is that?" moments when I get an assignment. You shall, too. These courses may help minimize those.
what's going on with corporations? is it really being merged with corporations II?
If you're going to be a 3L and you have not taken Evidence, you really should. Even if you're not planning to be a litigator. It will make your bar exam study slightly less awful. Evidence is a hard subject to cram into a couple Barbri lectures.
All of this is assuming that Boalt's offering Evidence this Fall. I'm a graduate so haven't looked.
Evidence is being offered, albeit at absolutely terrible hours.
S*lansky WThF 8:40-9:50
B*own MTuW 11:20-12:30 (although this conflicts with Con Law)
Also, B*own is visiting from USF law.
That change to the rankings procedures looks to be very helpful--I didn't read closely enough to tell if it is combined with the end of other rankings--will Boalties now get to be "Does not Rank" on Oscar? If yes, that change combined with the distinction "awards" could lead to better Kevin Smith prospects.
From my Corporations professor:
First, beginning next year, we are going to phase out the sequence of Corps 1 and Corps 2 (3 units each). In its place, we will have a single, 4-unit course entitled Business Associations. The extra unit will be used to pick up a few things from Corps 2 (predominantly governance and close corporation stuff), and to spend a bit of time on introducing partnerships/LLCs (though we have a regular class on that that takes a deeper dive). Corps 2 will be offered one last time next year for the transitional students who have gone through the Corps 1 course and want to finish up the sequence. The ongoing Spring 2010 Corps 1 course will be the last one offered at Boalt.
Did anyone else catch that line at the end of today's CDO email how the class of 2011 is doomed at next OCIP? Although I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
12:36:
The dire times for the Class of 2011 is nothing new. Did you really expect it to get better?
Did Yoo buy the student body a keg?
What is this referring to? http://abovethelaw.com/2010/04/pls-hndle-thx-great-taste-less-filling/#comments
"Anyone at Boalt know what's up with the keg from Yoo in the student center?"
Anyone know what the deal is with M*rphy and O'C*nnell? They are both teaching at Harvard this semester, and neither of them are listed as teaching at Boalt in the fall.
The two-year plan has M*rphy coming back in the spring.
Anyone have thoughts on Legislation? Good? interesting? worth it? Never heard of the prof (R*ssell)
What about Admin? If it's between Legislation and Admin, which should I take?
Legislation.
They pursued a "block schedule" model, eliminating the minor time overlaps. Improvement.
Both Admin and Legislation are pretty critical to a well rounded legal education. If Frickey were still teaching, I would call it a tossup. But since he isn't, I would say Admin FTW. Bamb*rg*r is probably the best lecturer I've had in my two years at Boalt, and at the risk of having a non-engaging prof talk about statutory interpretation for 4 mos. I would bet on the known quantity.
Floundering in my schedule for 3L and looking for advice. Working in a litigation practice group this summer. Planning on getting the Law/Tech certificate so do still need two classes for that.
My field of possible selection: Federal Courts, Copyright, Patent, Civil Trial Practice, Appellate Advocacy, and I still haven't taken Corp so Business Associations. Crim Pro because everyone says you should take it.
I'd appreciate any input, insight, or even mocking :)
Oh, and I'm dithering about McBaine or trying out for Board of Advocates (Trial) next week.
Civil Trial Practice was one of the least educational experiences I had at Boalt. You're better off taking Evidence and Evidency Advocacy. Appellate Advocacy, on the other hand, was fantastic - I learned a lot. Your milage may vary.
Fed Courts was awesome, but sort of hard. I really liked it.
McBaine is fun. And pass/fail.
Can't speak to CR or Patents.
If you are going to take a class because you think you should (rather than because you are genuinely interested) consider corps over crim pro. If you are going to take a class you aren't interested in, with the hope that it will ignite your interest, consider crim pro over corps.
I'd echo a lot of what Patrick just said.
Appellate Advocacy and/or McBaine are terrific brief-writing experiences and get you a nice writing sample. (I wouldn't recommend both, though; and you do get out of it what you're willing to put into it, so don't take it if you're going to blow it off.)
If you're interested in IP, you shouldn't come through this school without taking Samuelson's Copyright course.
I've never taken a class with W*sselberg, but I like him and think you couldn't go wrong with his Crim Pro class.
I can't speak to Fed Courts or Patents - I took neither.
. . . also, I think the writing requirement rules were just revised to permit students to use big legal briefs, so which might make McBaine or App Ad more attractive. You might want to check my work on that, though.
Another rising 3L here scrambling to figure out my schedule. Does anyone have any thoughts on which two classes out of Fed Courts, Admin., and Corps/BA would be most useful? I'll be in a general commercial lit practice group this summer.
I guess I could take all 3, but I need to do my writing requirement next semester, too, and that combo seems a little masochistic.
Intro to IP has been expanded to 90 students (from 60). It was pretty crappy that 2/3 if the 1L class was unable to take it in the spring, and then they thought 60 spots was enough for fall? FWIW, M*nell was pretty unhappy about the situation in the spring, and was equally unhappy with the former small class size for the fall. I don't find it a coincidence that size change happened less than a week after some 1Ls mentioned it to him.
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