Friday, November 12, 2010

Paranoia and Prognostications (About Fees)

Maybe it's because of last year's uproar over student fees, maybe it's because Dean Edley seems to be using the vaguest possible language short of "meeting... come if you want", but today's email from DE seriously creeped me out:

Subject: Town Hall with Dean Edley - 11/16/10, 12:45pm, Booth Auditorium

Dear students:

I write to invite you to attend a Student Town Hall. This will be an opportunity for the community to discuss the overall state of the law school as well as student fees. The meeting takes place next Tuesday during the lunch break.

Student Town Hall
Tuesday, November 16, 2010
12:45pm
Booth Auditorium

Christopher Edley, Jr.

By itself, the email seems mundane enough. But that's the problem: this time last year, students were just learning about larger-than-anticipated fee hikes... hikes to the tune of 22% (for residents), that took many by surprise and caused a great deal of frustration (although as a concession to Armen, it's true that information surrounding proposed hikes had been circulating for some time.) What followed was a week of student "strikes" (or were they boycotts?) and a hastily-planned Town Hall wherein Edley addressed a large group of fired-up law students, who came equipped with red and green signs that said things like "I agree" or "Are you kidding??"

Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but DE's email announcement of this year's Town Hall struck me as purposefully understated - the kind of half-assed due diligence that someone in the school administration can point to after a fee-bomb drops and say, "Hey, we invited you kids to the Town Hall. Remember?"

There's no question that fees will go up this year. But DE's vague email sparked my curiosity about just how big this year's fee hikes might be. On November 8, President Yudof issued an open letter to the campus community detailing a proposed systemwide fee increase of 8%. But the letter didn't mention professional fees... so after (very little) sleuthing, I dug up the 2011-12 professional fees budget proposal that the UC Regents will be voting on next week. Specifically:
Law (Berkeley – 12 percent increase in 2011-12).

Berkeley Law plans to use new professional degree fee funds to substantially expand its Loan Repayment Assistance Program (LRAP) offerings and a larger financial aid program, fund six new faculty, pay debt service on new construction and renovations to the law school complex, and expand public interest and public service career programs. Berkeley Law has recently overhauled its financial aid programs and provides “substantially greater assistance to students from low-income families…. [Berkeley Law] return[s] more of our tuition to students in the form of financial aid than any of our competitor institutions,” although student debt has risen in recent years. The program has seen “no statistically significant change in our minority enrollment since fees started to rise seriously in 2003-04” Enrollment of underrepresented minorities at Berkeley Law has been between 14 and 17 percent since 2005. Berkeley Law’s total proposed charges for 2011-12 are projected to be below the average charges at its public comparison programs.
So there you have it - the relevant details that DE should-have-maybe included in his email. If you're interested in discussing this proposal further, I recommend attending the Town Hall. Last year's was actually pretty fun. :)

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14 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dean Edley has been a great leader but one problem I have with him is he is completely out of touch with the current employment prospects of Boalt students.

I would have no problem paying high tuition if as DE says, the median income is 160k. We all know this is a not true, and that many of us going to private firms will be lucky to make 50k. I am fine with people going to big firms paying 70k/ a year to cover LRAP.

However, I do not understand why the 40% or so of us who will work in the private sector around 50k a year should get no assistance and be expected to cover public service people making the same.

I have no problem with tuition hike, its a tuition hike with dismal job prospects that is really a kick in the nuts.

11/12/2010 4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said, 4:11.

Ultimately, elite law schools exist solely as factories to produce attorneys for big firms. If some students do other things, then great. But really, because we are being groomed to go to big firms, they act as though we all are, and then point to LRAP as "proof" that they really do care about students going into the public service/public interest.

11/12/2010 4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, part of the problem also is that the CDO has no ability to help us and we are essentially on our own. The CDO has gotten used to having all non-PI people place at OCI, and have absolutely no other connections in the private sector. And no it's not a connection to tell me to go to Martindale.com and look up Boalt grads.

Serious message to 1Ls, STUDY HARD. If you don't get good grades, you are likely screwed for OCI. If you don't get something at OCI you are looking at making a salary around 50k which means you will be financially insolvent until IBR pays off your loans in 25 years. The extra studying effort this semester is worth what is at stake: 10 or 25 years of financial insolvency.

11/12/2010 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CDO is not useless. You can't expect magic. They have directly assissted me.

11/12/2010 10:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the job market is only softening for law school grads looking for specific, high-paying jobs at the top law firms, or if it means that the United States has too many lawyers in general? However, a report earlier this year by the National Association of Law Placement indicated that even though the majority of law school graduates can still find jobs, a far higher percentage of those grads are now taking jobs that are temporary.




school scholarships

11/13/2010 4:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What?

11/13/2010 10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While we are talking about financial aid and fees I just read this article on Daily Cal that horrified me...

for three reasons 1) that the University is renting this housing to non-student parents because they are less hassle 2) that the University is sending these eviction notices when they know that these parents can pay but are just waiting for the UNIVERSITY financial aid.

http://www.dailycal.org/article/111162/facing_eviction_due_to_financial_aid
are we really at this point now? F

11/13/2010 4:36 PM  
Blogger D said...

DE and the Cal Regents are due for a legal.

11/13/2010 5:45 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

If I don't find a job soon, I'm going to get a legal myself.

11/13/2010 11:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought JD stood for Just Dolla$

11/15/2010 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So it was unrealistic to think that a JD would provide a career that would be able to pay for food and rent?

11/15/2010 9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many people in the 2L class were (as of now) unable to find summer employment?

11/15/2010 9:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any answer would be speculation. What do you define as summer employment? I was offered to wait tables at a place I used to work at and I'm seriously considering for financial reasons. Does that count as employment?

11/15/2010 11:11 AM  
Anonymous Stacy said...

Prices are just going up for everything...hopefully the economy will fix itself.

5/14/2012 8:28 PM  

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