Bar Application, Graduation, MPRE & Moral Character Stuff
In case you missed it, here's a summary of today's lunch session with Dean H*rshen about applying for the Bar and going through Moral Character Determination. I'm sure I missed a few things, so if you have anything important to add, do so in the comments.
First, there were handouts. You should read them. Additionally ...
Registration and Bar Application
First, there were handouts. You should read them. Additionally ...
Registration and Bar Application
- It's really important that you register as a law student before you apply for the bar. Those are two separate steps that take time to process, so you can't just do both in one go. The law school told us to register during our 1L year, but if you're unsure about your status, you can check it out here.
- If you're taking the New York bar (or any other bar for that matter), let the Registrar know! The law school will automatically certify graduates for the California bar, but students from other states will need to submit a form to the registrar by a certain deadline. You may also need to submit other forms, like a handwriting sample for New York. You should get all of this to the registrar as soon as possible.
Graduation
- If you have IP grades ("in progress"), talk to your professor soon to get those taken care of. It's bad if you can't graduate because the professor you need to sign off on this is on sabbatical.
- Writing requirements should be done by this semester.
- The registrar will start sending out individual e-mails to students about any missing graduation requirements, starting next week.
MPRE
- If you are taking the MPRE this November, John St*ele will be holding an MPRE review session at 5:30 on Thursday, October 27, in Booth. See K. H*lmquist's e-mail.
Moral Character Determination
- You can fill it out at this link.
- Fill it out now! It takes a long time to complete and to process. Technically, you don't need to have this done until you take your oath in December, but it's best to get this all done before you take the bar, so you don't have to worry about any of this while studying for the bar.
- At least 4 people asked this, but yes, LLM and international students need to go through the Moral Character Determination process as well. If you want to sit for the bar, you have to go through moral determination.
- You need to have your fingerprints taken. Boalt doesn't do fingerprinting, so ask the bar for locations
- It's OK to have a few "youthful indiscretions" on your moral character determination, but it's better to be upfront about this rather than try to hide it. If you fail to mention something, and it comes up later during the moral character review, that's bad.
- Similarly, if you have anything that might impact your moral character determination, like a bankruptcy or criminal record, that you did not mention to Berkeley, you should talk to Dean Hirshen. It's important that information the Bar has about you match the information the school has.
- Even if you've taken a moral character determination in the past, e.g., for a security background check, you still need to do this one as well. But mention the previous one in your application.
- When putting down your employment history, if your employer no longer exists, there should be a box you can check to note this. If your boss is no longer there (but the company still is), just put down the company and boss as is, and let your old company deal with it.
- When putting down the places you resided at, if you were travelling for an extended period of time but didn't have any single particular place you stayed at, just list your permanent residence.
- This sounded weird to me, but when listing the time and places for your your residencies, you also need to note those brief periods during winter or summer break where you were at home.
- A moral character determination is good in California for three years, so if you're not taking the Cal. bar but might at some point in the next three years, get the moral character determination done now.
That's all I have. You can also view posts from previous 3Ls about this process. Feel free to add in the comments.
Labels: Bar Exams, moral character
15 Comments:
1. The most common cause for delay, if I had to guess, is a gap in your chronology on the moral character app. Even the perception of a gap, can cause some delay. So, make sure from age 18 to now, all your time is accounting for.
2. Locating prior addresses is a pain in the ass. Amazon.com is really a great tool to use.
The registrar has a page with some of this info as well. http://www.law.berkeley.edu/794.htm
For fingerprinting, go to the UPS store on Telegraph, preferably at a time when Anthony can help you. This guy has done a bajilliion moral character fingerprintings, and will help you send off your entire package if you bring all the other forms, etc. with you.
Do current 2Ls need to be worrying about this at all?!?
10:10, no. Although you should make sure you get your PR and writing requirements out of the way during your 2L year.
Thanks!
How do you proceed if you do not know where you will be working?
For reference, I am old, so the moral character people had lots to look back through. I turned mine in on March 29, 2010 (yes, don't do this, but it you do, it probably won't be a tragedy) and JUST got my letter this week that California is pleased to find my moral character acceptable.
Get your moral character application in soon, but if you are a straight-through, chances are, you'll get your application approved quickly.
I sent in my application in late May and got my moral character approved by the start of July.
Does the mpre really require fingerprints now? I don't think that's right.
(But I would love to be corrected if that is right... cause the only thing less awesome that retaking the mpre would be not getting to retake the mpre due to some admin screw up)
Corrected -- fingerprints is for the moral character determination, not the MPRE
thanks for posting this! ~3L
I had mine held up b/c the guy at the UPS on telegraph forgot to put my height/weight on the livescan form. Fill out the WHOLE form!
Also... if you make a mistake, which is fine if you catch it early, submit the official "amendment" form. You can send a letter in to the office of admissions, but NOBODY will read it until you call and tell your analyst about it.
Does they do fingerprints for 3L?
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