Tea Party on Wall Street
As a comment on the thread below observes, the Occupy Wall Street protest is interesting to all but particularly relevant to Boalties working in New York. So, here is a thread on the issue. For unrelated reasons it’s a busy day for me so I’ll kick this off with three very unstructured off-the-cuff thoughts and let it run from there.
- I don’t understand how – political objectives aside – this protest is meaningfully different than the many Tea Party protests of late. Both are forms of populist rage against what the protester feels is a large, coercive, dangerous institution (the government according to one group, and the business/financial world according to the other). For me, this makes the media coverage of the Wall Street event sort of funny to watch: you can put Jon Stewart’s words about the Tea Party directly into Bill O’Rilley’s recent tirade about Occupy Wall Street, and you can put O’Rilley’s laudatory words about the Tea Party directly into Stewart’s commentary on Occupy Wall Street. All of which shows, or should show, that both are agenda-driven hacks (though only one insists he is a legitimate newsman).
2. That quirky aside shouldn’t distract you from the larger themes at work in both protests. Our country is, and always has been, populated by (1) a relatively wealthy and influential, but small, group of people with the power, and (2) a much larger, poorer, and less influential group tasked with the mundane job of keeping the wheels turning, roads paved, shit shoveled, etc. Sometimes the taskees get (justifiably) pissed off, and now more than ever it makes sense to feel that way. It’s hard not to be angry once you realize that we live in a decade when literally millions of people have lost their homes, retirements, and jobs (all of which contribute to a person’s sense of self worth) while the people who are responsible for causing those losses are enjoying unfathomable bonuses and sipping champagne while looking down from balconies upon the masses.
3. The question I can’t answer is why the protesters believe a protest is the best way to approach the issue. How does a protest change or even bear up on the basic framework at issue: that poor working people spend their lives generating value for wealthy banker types to trade for commissions in the stock market, all while the worker-types insure the banker-types’ losses and the banker-types take home the profits? A protest might make people more aware of the issue, but the social problem here is not that people are unaware of the inequity, pain, and suffering caused by the financial collapse. A protest might make people feel like party of a community, but the social problem here is not that it is lonely on the short end of the stick. A protest ties rather nicely into the values and events upon which our country was founded – i.e., free speech and the American Revolution – but I’ve never been a fan of originalist approaches to contemporary problems. A protest might give oppressed, confused, angry people an opportunity to vent their anger and frustration, but I don’t think anger and frustration is the root of the problem. The root of the problem is that the wealthy are doing what the wealthy, as a group, always do: using political and social institutions to protect what they value, which is their money and status. I can’t see how a protest bears upon willingness, or their ability, to do so.
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Regarding your first point, the Tea Party types have long been complaining about the too-cozy relationship between Wall Street and Washington, D.C. It's long been a talking point for Sarah Palin.
Seems like 1 and 2, and portions of 3, directly answer 3. There are diverse segments of the population who share frustrations with a perennial condition of the USA. How do we know this? Because they protest. Why must their method be the "best" way to address their grievances? They have to start somewhere.
Flavor of the month is itself a flavor of the month as far as analytical or predictive tools go. So is the argument that we shouldn't be surprised with the wealthy who consistently behave like the wealthy. That behavior has grown more cynical, more manipulative and exploitative, than the protestors will tolerate.
I think this op ed from a few weeks ago is on point: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/opinion/sunday/what-happened-to-obamas-passion.html?pagewanted=all.
The author posits that Obama's failure to hang Wall Street's feet over the fire after the financial crisis left a sort of "bad guy vacuum." People felt something had gone seriously wrong with the structure of America, and they wanted to know what it was and who to blame for it. Under similar circumstances, FDR spoke of "economic royalists" and said that the revolutionary spirit of America required a fight against the "economic tyranny" of the rich using "the organized power of government." (Class warfare much?) But Obama was so blessedly equanimical and pragmatic that he just holstered the inflammatory rhetoric and bailed out wall street.
This allowed the Tea Party to fill the bad guy vacuum with its own bogeyman--government--and its own anti-government revisionist American history, conveniently dumbed down for sale to people who believe the Federalist papers need to be translated from an ancient and unintelligible form of English. (See Glenn Beck's "The Original Argument.) Never mind that we had just witnessed a crisis caused by private sector housing investment, private sector financial innovation, and private sector corporate incentives. Never mind that as of 2007 the private debt that we had racked up gorging on McMansions and cheap plastic things from China was larger than the government's debt, and vastly larger than the non-war related share of government debt. The main problem facing America was government and its runaway spending on social engineering projects. It's still shocking to me that a diagnosis so wide of the mark proved so convincing to so many voters.
I think the new protests can be understood as an effort to create a left bogeyman that competes with the Tea Party's right bogeyman. And Patrick, I disagree with your point (3). I think these protests have the potential to have serious real world impact, the same way I think the Tea Party protests in 2009 had real world impact--by popularizing ideas and thereby moving public opinion. Even if you don't share many of the ideas of the people Occupying Wall Street (and I probably don't), you can still benefit from the ideological ripples they generate, same way someone as far from the Tea Party as Mitt Romney benefits from the ripples it generates. For my part, I hope the protests give us back a reality-based understanding of the problems America faces and re-start that fresh critical wind that I felt back in 2009, the one that cleared out stale economic orthodoxies and made room for new ideas.
People protest, Patrick, when they don't see other avenues for change.
The two party election system that's funded by corporate money hardly seems like the right place and neither do courts that consistently side with big business or are hemmed in by pro-business legislation.
That's exactly what has me so bummed out, James.
I feel ya, but that's why it's hopeful that people are organizing around this. I liked this excerpt from Krugman's recent NYTimes column:
"Now, it’s true that some of the protesters are oddly dressed or have silly-sounding slogans, which is inevitable given the open character of the events. But so what? I, at least, am a lot more offended by the sight of exquisitely tailored plutocrats, who owe their continued wealth to government guarantees, whining that President Obama has said mean things about them than I am by the sight of ragtag young people denouncing consumerism."
Patrick: The tea party started as a protest and now many republicans in congress are afraid to deviate from tea party policy goals. Don't you think there is a chance of the protests raising awareness and making legislators change their opinions?
That's a good point. I don't know - what do you think?
I can tell you what the President's advisors think, though!
Democrats: Wall Street, why won't you hire? C'mon big corporations, spend that reserve cash on new investments, hire new employees, expand your business so we can save a little face on unemployment here!
Democrats in the same breath: Down with Wall Street! Fire the CEO's! Wall Street is corrupt, under-taxed (especially on low cap gains rates for investment!), under-regulated, uncaring, profit-hungry, evil, conspiring, jackals! OCCUPY WALL STREET!
Do you liberals ever listen to yourselves?
Yeah, the actual protest lacks succinct message and leadership, and a lot of the people may be simpletons, but so what?
Bongo drums instead of guns. Populist hippie rage instead of populist redneck rage. Whatever. The bottom line is that, as far as political movements have gone in the last 50 years, the Tea Partiers were WILDLY successful. If Occupy Wall Street protesters are the same as Tea Partiers in certain essential ways, it is because they are a bunch of lost and angry idiots who have a chance of getting a real leader, of getting someone to do something for them; that is why anyone protests, ultimately. And in the most fundamental sense, that is where power comes from and how anyone comes to be a leader: people cry out, for whatever reason, and someone sees an opportunity to lead them in some direction. The MLKs, Gandhis, and Hulk Hogans (pre-1996 heel turn, which devastated 9 year olds everywhere) lead followers to just ends that address their causes, whereas Stalins, Palins, and Randy 'Macho Man' Savages (post-1989 heel turn, which devastated 9 year olds everywhere) use their followers' enthusiasm to serve their own ends.
(P.S. I love this elitist bullsh*t response to protesters: "The question I can’t answer is why the protesters believe a protest is the best way to approach the issue." Seriously? Are you kidding? The obvious false premise is that the protesters are people who WANT to be "approaching" any "issue" and are interested in "the best way" of doing so, rather than people who just want to have a living wage and a home and a promising future and no time to engage in coordinated populist rage. Protesters in general do not think, "this is the BEST way to approach the issue of ___." If they did that, they would not be "the masses". And besides, if I was out of work in today's economy, and especially if I had just graduated college, camping out around Wall Street with nowhere to poop and nothing to do but let everyone know how pissed off I am might be a pretty good way to pass the time.
Really, the diatribe against protesting seems more like a way to utter the pedantic, cool-sounding but ultimately meaningless statement "I've never been a fan of originalist approaches to contemporary problems." While I am glad to hear the poster's personal stance on that issue, it doesn't add any logic here. (And yes, I realize that my post is susceptible to the (valid) criticism that I just wanted to make nostalgic wrestling references.)
Nor is there any logic in criticizing a frustration-venting protest because "frustration" is not "the root of the problem." That is a new argument against people speaking out when they feel oppressed, left behind, and stuck in a game that is rigged against them: your frustration is not the problem, so why are you here, venting it? People have ample reason to be peeved. No, we're not blacks in the 1960s or women in Mississippi today (zing!), but people are all getting screwed by the way this country has been managed for the last 30 years. More diffuse, economic oppression on a grand scale is still oppression, and it is an intellectually bankrupt exercise to ridicule those expressing rage over that oppression on the grounds that they do so without the eloquence and articulation of a lawyer. And yeah, I thought the same thing about the Tea Partiers. It was good on them; the ugly part about that movement is the freaking idiotic LEADERS that reigned them in. Give the Wall Street occupiers a smart, insightful leader who will actually advocate policies that will benefit them, and there could be political momentum for real change.
I know I am being overly critical and overreacting to fluff. I think the poster normally has good insights, but #3 irked me and reeked of "here's a fun topic, lets discuss it a bit and then fill up space with some critical conclusion supported by complicated-sounding rhetoric that doesn't really mean much--the same mindset of the 24-hour news cycle.)
Jesus, I want to write in Danny Z for . . . anything. How about more regular N&B contributor?
(and yes, topic 3 was fluff)
My own personal problem is that the more I try to engage in empathy with the political/social figures of the moment, the more crappy and sad I feel about the future of our country. I don't think that is unjustified on my part. So my response is to make off-hand, elliptical comments about the "root of the problem" and to ask questions like "have they really thought this through?"
All of which assumes that the big moments in history had to do with "thinking things through" and responding to problems' "roots." Dant Z others above are right to call me out on this. Good for them.
(Sent from my phone.)
(point being, that kind of talk on my part is often a copout or a dodge on my part, and I don't mind admitting -- or even being told -- as much.)
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Patrick: Word. I was worried I'd come off as a d*ck for calling out the fluff...but not so worried that I'd post anonymously. (Wusses.)
I wish I was a self-starter enough to write on a blog. Sigh.
If anyone ever wants to collaborate on a posting, I'd love to chip in, but I confine most of my rants to shorter facebook updates.
Now, if only I could sleep...
Danny - I offer another analogy: Austin's heel turn post-2001. What happens when a beloved leader alienates his audience? An eventual effort to rehabilitate the relationship. But no amount of good will can bring back 100% of the defected followers when their trust is broken so severely. Savage, Austin, Hogan, etc, were never the draws they were after their eventual face turns. Vince McMahon's failures in booking are why I fear for Obama.
Really, 'professional' 'wrestling' is the perfect laboratory for political experiments.
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