OCIPin on Cristal
Because all the interviewing Boalties look so stunning, thoughts of brazen fashion statements keep me from sleeping. [Sidenote: Ladies, a camel toe suit is NEVER acceptable. Please check yourself in the mirror] As such, I am taking the time at this god forsaken hour to repost from below the firms that have made some sort of a response in alphabetical order (to prevent double posting as Phase II begins).
Key to Grades: + = callback offer; - = rejection offer; PA/SV = South Bay; WC = Walnut Creek; EC = East Coast
Akin Gump (LA) +
Allen Matkins -
Alschuler Grossman +
Alston Bird +
Arnold Porter (LA) +
Baker McKenzie (SF) +/-
Bingham (WC) + (SF) +/-
Boies Schiller & Flexner +
Cadwalader (NY) +
Cleary (EC) +
Cox Castle (LA) +
Cooley (PA, SF, SD) +/-
Covington (SF) +/-
Cravath Can Kith My Ath (see the guy in our class who makes shirt if you want your copy) +
Curtis Mallet-Prevost (NY) +
Davis Polk +
Day Casebeer (SV) +
Debevoise +
Dechert +
Dewey Ballentine (PA) +
Diamond McCarthy +
DLA Piper (EC) + (LA) + (PA) -
Dow, Lohnes & Albertson (DC) +
Downey Brand +
Drinker +
Faegre & Benson -
Farella Braun + Martel +
Fenwick + (SV) -
Fish and Richardson +
Folger (SF) + (LA) -
Fried Frank (NY) +
Fulbright (EC, TX) +
Garvey Schubert (Seattle) +
Gibson (SF, PA, LA) +
Greenberg +
Gunderson Dettmer +/-
Hanson Bridgett +
Heller +/-
Hogan +
Howard Rice +/-
Howry +
Hughes Hubbard Reed (LA) +
Irell (LA) +
Jenkens Gilchrist +
Jenner and Block (Chic) +
Jones Day (SF, EC, SV) +/-
Katten (LA) +
Kaye Scholer -
Kelley Drye (NY)
Kirkland (SF) +/- (LA) -
Kramer Levin -
Latham (DC, SF) +
LeBoeuf +
Leiff Cabraser - (using Townsend approach)
Loeb ^2 -
Mayer Brown (LA) -
Milbank Tweed (NY) +/- (PA) +
Miller Star Regalia (WC) +
MorganLewis (LA) +/- (SF) -
MoFo (SF) +/- (WC) + (PA) + (NY) + (LA) +
Munger +
Nixon Peabody (SF) +
O'Donnel Shaeffer Mortimer (LA) +
O'Melvyny (LA/CC, SF) +/- (SV, Newport) -
Orrick (SF) +/- (PA) +/- (LA) +
Paul Hastings +/-
Payne and Fears and Anxiety (OC) +
Perkins Coie +
Pillsbury (SF, LA, CC, DC, NY) +
Preston Gates & Ellis (Seattle) +
Proskauer Rose (LA) +/-
Quinn Emanuel +
Reed Smith (SF) +
Ropes and Gray (EC, SF, PA) +
Ross, Dixon Bell (are these two firms?) -
Schulte Roth (NY) +
Shearman and Sterling -
Sheppard Mullin (LA, SF) +
Sidley (LA) + (SF) + (Chic) +
Simpson Thatcher (PA) +/- (NY) +
Skadden (NY, LA) +
Sonnenscheim (SF) +/-
Steefle +
Steptoe and Johnson (DC) +
Stoel +
Stroock and Stroock +
Sullivan & Cromwell (PA) +
Thelen (SJ, SF) +/-
Townsend (SF) +
Weil (Call of the) (NY) +
White & Case (SF) + (PA) -
Wilmer Cutler (NY, PA, DC) +/-
Wilson Sonsini +/-
Winston (Chic, NY?, PA) +
Wright Tremaine (LA) +
* If there are any additions/corrections that you want to make to this list of firms here then, e-mail me using the following account (to maintain anonymity): boaltocip05-at-gmail-dot-com pw: boaltocip. My addy is armenaut-at-gmail-dot-com or you can use my berkeley account. Otherwise I want to reserve the comments for any additional firms.
** This e-mail thing strikes me as a bit creepy, but it's the best way I can keep the comments from being cluttered with "oh I forgot, Sidley LA rejected my ass" type of comments.
*** As per the ad hoc rules established by those who go nuts whenever a firm they interviewed with is mentioned but no office cited, please state relevant office(s) (if decisions made on that basis) and date of callback/rejection offers.
Key to Grades: + = callback offer; - = rejection offer; PA/SV = South Bay; WC = Walnut Creek; EC = East Coast
Akin Gump (LA) +
Allen Matkins -
Alschuler Grossman +
Alston Bird +
Arnold Porter (LA) +
Baker McKenzie (SF) +/-
Bingham (WC) + (SF) +/-
Boies Schiller & Flexner +
Cadwalader (NY) +
Cleary (EC) +
Cox Castle (LA) +
Cooley (PA, SF, SD) +/-
Covington (SF) +/-
Cravath Can Kith My Ath (see the guy in our class who makes shirt if you want your copy) +
Curtis Mallet-Prevost (NY) +
Davis Polk +
Day Casebeer (SV) +
Debevoise +
Dechert +
Dewey Ballentine (PA) +
Diamond McCarthy +
DLA Piper (EC) + (LA) + (PA) -
Dow, Lohnes & Albertson (DC) +
Downey Brand +
Drinker +
Faegre & Benson -
Farella Braun + Martel +
Fenwick + (SV) -
Fish and Richardson +
Folger (SF) + (LA) -
Fried Frank (NY) +
Fulbright (EC, TX) +
Garvey Schubert (Seattle) +
Gibson (SF, PA, LA) +
Greenberg +
Gunderson Dettmer +/-
Hanson Bridgett +
Heller +/-
Hogan +
Howard Rice +/-
Howry +
Hughes Hubbard Reed (LA) +
Irell (LA) +
Jenkens Gilchrist +
Jenner and Block (Chic) +
Jones Day (SF, EC, SV) +/-
Katten (LA) +
Kaye Scholer -
Kelley Drye (NY)
Kirkland (SF) +/- (LA) -
Kramer Levin -
Latham (DC, SF) +
LeBoeuf +
Leiff Cabraser - (using Townsend approach)
Loeb ^2 -
Mayer Brown (LA) -
Milbank Tweed (NY) +/- (PA) +
Miller Star Regalia (WC) +
MorganLewis (LA) +/- (SF) -
MoFo (SF) +/- (WC) + (PA) + (NY) + (LA) +
Munger +
Nixon Peabody (SF) +
O'Donnel Shaeffer Mortimer (LA) +
O'Melvyny (LA/CC, SF) +/- (SV, Newport) -
Orrick (SF) +/- (PA) +/- (LA) +
Paul Hastings +/-
Payne and Fears and Anxiety (OC) +
Perkins Coie +
Pillsbury (SF, LA, CC, DC, NY) +
Preston Gates & Ellis (Seattle) +
Proskauer Rose (LA) +/-
Quinn Emanuel +
Reed Smith (SF) +
Ropes and Gray (EC, SF, PA) +
Ross, Dixon Bell (are these two firms?) -
Schulte Roth (NY) +
Shearman and Sterling -
Sheppard Mullin (LA, SF) +
Sidley (LA) + (SF) + (Chic) +
Simpson Thatcher (PA) +/- (NY) +
Skadden (NY, LA) +
Sonnenscheim (SF) +/-
Steefle +
Steptoe and Johnson (DC) +
Stoel +
Stroock and Stroock +
Sullivan & Cromwell (PA) +
Thelen (SJ, SF) +/-
Townsend (SF) +
Weil (Call of the) (NY) +
White & Case (SF) + (PA) -
Wilmer Cutler (NY, PA, DC) +/-
Wilson Sonsini +/-
Winston (Chic, NY?, PA) +
Wright Tremaine (LA) +
* If there are any additions/corrections that you want to make to this list of firms here then, e-mail me using the following account (to maintain anonymity): boaltocip05-at-gmail-dot-com pw: boaltocip. My addy is armenaut-at-gmail-dot-com or you can use my berkeley account. Otherwise I want to reserve the comments for any additional firms.
** This e-mail thing strikes me as a bit creepy, but it's the best way I can keep the comments from being cluttered with "oh I forgot, Sidley LA rejected my ass" type of comments.
*** As per the ad hoc rules established by those who go nuts whenever a firm they interviewed with is mentioned but no office cited, please state relevant office(s) (if decisions made on that basis) and date of callback/rejection offers.
Labels: OCIP/Employment
posted by Armen Adzhemyan at 5:48 PM
166 Comments:
Thanks for taking the trouble to do this.
Mofo LA called on 16th. Which Paul Hastings office?
I'll note that Ropes & Gray did, at least, both Palo Alto and New York.
I've heard that Gibson Dunn does dinners as a callback prelude. Munger Tolles may have done something similar. [these are clearly gray areas]
DLA SF callback week ago Friday. Did you go to the Gibson dinner?
Ropes callback - Boston and SF - 9/23
Cooley callback - SF - 9/25
Irell LA callback - 9/26
So, did Gibson actually hold a dinner? People have just referred to Gibson's practice of holding a dinner in general, but no one has actually posted that a dinner was held.
Diamond McCarthy callback offer by phone on Monday
Bingham McCutchen (Walnut Creek) callback offer by phone on Monday
Yes Gibson had a dinner.
Gibson call-back by phone 9/26.
Boies Schiller & Flexner call back by email same day as interview Sep 21
Perkins Coie call back by telephone day after drinks reception Sep 22
Wilson Sonsini call back by letter Sep 24
(3L)
jones day, east coast: rejection by snail mail. 9/26
Dow, Lohnes & Albertson call back. DC. 09/27
farella braun martel callback by phone 9/27 for 9/22 interview
Folger SF called back for offer on 9/27
Sidley chicago - callback 9/27
Townsend SF - callback 9/27 (although I'm probably the only one who interviewed there)
Munger Tolles & Olson callback, 9/27 afternoon.
Wilmer Cutler - NYC callback, 9/27 afternoon.
Hanson Bridgett call back 9/27 (mid-morning).
Jenkins Gilchrist (callback?)dinner turned into an actual callback 9/27.
Bingham SF callback 9/27
Anyone anything on Morgan Lewis?
Pillsbury SF callback 9/27 - same day as interview
folger called back and made an offer at the same time? post is unclear.
has anyone heard either way from jones day NY?
Do NOT work at Paul Hastings.
Why not Paul Hastings? Which office, or does it not matter?
jones day NY callback by phone last monday
jones day (east coast) rejection by snail mail. 9/25
Yes, don't work at Cooley, Bingham, Heller, or Orrick either. Not because I want your spot, but because they're bad. Yes, that's totally the reason.
Sidley NY called back yesterday. Baker called back monday.
gibson rejection letter, 9/28
gibson rejection letter, 9/28
Baker SF which practice area did you interview for?
Finnegan rejection letter arrived today. On fabulous paper with a multi-color embossed letterhead. I took that right out of your salary, Finnegan attorneys! Ha!
Baker - corporate transaction. akin called yesterday.
Morgan Lewis LA rejection letter 9/28
Thelen Reid & Priest San Jose call back 9/28
callbacks at Arnold and Porter LA (received Wed. afternoon) and Davis Wright Tremaine LA (received Tues. night).
Callbacks
9/19 White & Case SF
9/23 Jones Day Menlo Park
Curtis Mallet-Prevost NYC call back yesterday sep 29 by phone for interview on Sep 16 (there is hope)
Jenner and Block Chicago via phone on 9/28.
Thelen SF on 9/29 am
Fulbright Jaworski (TX) callback 9/29
winston chicago - 9/29
Wilmer Cutler - Palo Alto 9/29
Boies Schiller - 9/29 (a later, second round of callbacks perhaps?)
Katten (LA) called 9/28
MoFo - PA - 9/29 - a second round of callbacks also?
Payne & Fears OC callback this morning.
I get the impression that these are somwhat abnormal, but callbacks from Weil (NYC) and Day Casebeer during the interviews - 9/29.
Morgan Lewis SF rejection received 9/29
9/29-- alschuler grossman, fish and richardson, o'melveny LA and o'melveny CC callbacks.
o'melveny SF by phone 9/29
Sidley NY callback a while ago, DLA piper (LA) a while ago too
debevoise callback during interview 9/29
9/29 winston & strawn callback
Baker (SF) rejection by letter 9/30
Same for Sonnenschein (SF)
skadden NY callback by phone, 9-30
pillsbury NY callback by email 9/30
leboeuf, lamb nyc call, Sept 30
Hogan & Hartson DC called on September 30.
Anyone heard from Allen Matkins?
Dewey Ballantine (EPA) callback on 9/30 by e-mail.
Wilmer Cutler etc. - DC - 9/30
Covington SF 9/30
Fun day at the mailbox today. Looks like the rejection wave is rolling in.
Cooley - Menlo Park, sent 9/28
Wilmer Cutler - Palo Alto, sent 9/27
O'Melveny - Menlo Park, sent 9/28
Rejections all received today, 9/30.
Sullivan & Cromwell PA 9/30; Winston & Strawn SF 9/30 by letter
Quinn dinner 9/29
I too got a wave of rejections all at once in the mail today.
Thelen Reid SF
Cooley - SF
Covington - SF
O'Melveny - SF
All but one dated 9/29 and received 10/1
Rejection letters in the mail this week for Kaye Scholer and Loeb & Loeb
Rejection letters in the mail this week from Kaye Scholer and Loeb & Loeb.
Hey 5:47 pm: "Wilmer Cutler etc. - DC - 9/30" Was this a call back or a rejection? Thanks.
More rejections received today.
sent 9/28 white & case palo alto
sent 9/29 bingham palo alto
WIlmer Cutler DC = callback
REJECTED!
OMelveny Newport Beach
Folger LA
For the Jenkins Gilchrist folks:
http://www.theconglomerate.org/2005/08/jenkens_gilchri.html
paul hastings rejection 9/30
cooley sf call back at 9:35 sunday night via phone. Yes, I think this is strange also.
Doesn't that make Cooley a somewhat unattractive place to work? I mean, who stays in the office till 10 pm on a Sunday night?
Rejections from Ross, Dixon Bell and Cooley in SD and Proskauer LA
does anyone know what a good, average number of callbacks is to have? how many do we really need?
"Thanks for interviewing" and voluntary race, gender, and ethnicity survey received from Wilmer Cutler NY today, even though I haven't heard one way or the other from the recruiters... which I suspect means I've been rejected given my classmates' record above. Poor form!
wilmer dc rejection via email on 10/2 nighttime.
Latham & Watkins DC callback by phone, 10/3/05.
Has anyone anything heard from Holland Knight yet?
pillsbury and latham DC callbacks 10/3 via phone
davis polk by phone, 10-3
Davis Polk - callback, 3rd Oct
Sullivan and Cromwell - callback, Sept 30
Weil Gotshal - callback, Oct 3.
oops - forgot to say that davis polk, s&c and weil gotshal were all in New York.
Sullivan and Cromwell, NY - callback was by email. Weil Gotshal and Davis Polk by phone.
mofo palo alto via phone 10/3. This may indicate that some of the earlier firms are hitting round 2 of callbacks - either because they didn't get any responses with round 1 or they didn't like the round 1 callbacks when they came into the office.
what kind of masochist entertains the idea of doing callbacks at all three: weil, davis polk and s & c nyc? if you're getting those callbacks, then you're serious hot shit and you might as well go easy on yourself and limit yourself to whatever top-of-the-vault prestige rankings firms you'd actually want to work for... leave some callbacks for the rest of us.
5:13, I'm leaving your comment in place as an example of the type of dipshit remarks that I don't want to see. OCIP sucks, and it's been stressful, but it's certainly not a zero sum game. Whoever got those call backs deserved each and every one of them and certainly does not need to worry about you "wigging out."
I think so far people have been graceously posting the callbacks because they're not worried about spiteful and resentful classmates taking cheap shots at them. I'll assume you're the exception, but if it proves otherwise, I can always turn to the delete button.
Orrick SF rejection...by phone! They got my hopes up with the blinking message light and then crushed them.
orrick just went down in my book. what kinda firm does rejections by phone. that's bordering on abusive. Callback today 10/3 from Bryan Cave - SM.
rejection from allen matkins. 10/3
How would you compare 5:13's comments to those of this person who choose to share with me that s/he had received call backs from all six or seven firms s/he had interviewed with the Monday before?
At that point, I had one.
I drank myself to sleep.
Cravath callback by phone - 10/3
7:11, I should be so lucky, still no call backs...mass mailings here I come
I agree with Armen on the issue of 5:13's comment.
Boalt students are not competing with each other for callbacks any more than they are competing with all other tier-1 law students for jobs at the top firms. A top NYC firm can come to Boalt and decide that none of the people who got screenings interviews can hold a candle to people from HYS. Alternatively, they can be happy with the batch of students at Boalt and bring back a sizeable number.
Spiting a kid for getting top callbacks and thinking that he or she took them away from you is misplaced spite. You probably didn't have much of a shot getting a callback there in the first place. Being jealous is understandable, but don't kid yourself into thinking that certain students at Boalt took your spot. It's more the case that employers come to Boalt looking for students that meet certain pre-set criteria (grades, presentation skills, maturity, drive, geographic interest, etc.). If they don't find students that meet the criteria, then they'll take fewer or no Boalt students. They likely figure they can find top kids elsewhere.
Pillsbury DC callback by phone - 10/3 afternoon
Stoel Rives call back by phone 10/3
Debevoise NY offered callbacks in the middle of the screening interview.
Weil NY also already called back.
any news on Skadden or Cravath?
Callbacks 10/3:
Kelley Drye (NY)
Garvey Schubert (Seattle)
I got a callback from Skadden LA on Friday by telephone. I'm being passed on to New York and was told I should hear from them soon.
As for Cravath... I haven't heard anything either way. Has anyone else?
ok - just read the postings above and saw that 8.15pm yesterday got a callback for Cravath by phone. Well done to that person!
anyone heard from Williams & Connolly?
And Armen - thanks for doing this.
No problem, I just haven't had the time to update the list, so for that I apologize.
Alston Bird callback 10/04 am by phone.
Still waiting to hear from Covington and Williams & Connolly. I've got to say they're really cramping my flyback week planning since I value them higher than anyone else... but if they don't call I need to find some other job.
Anyway.
Still no word.
Tom Fletcher, don't despair!
In other news, Steptoe & Johnson (DC) _offer_ by telephone, 4 October.
Just got a rejection letter from Lieff Cabraser, who I didn't even interview with! How perverse.
I for one appreciate that Orrick does rejections by phone -it's more human, and definitely ballsier.
beveridge and diamond dc 10/4
I also just received a rejection from Leiff Cabraser and did not even interview with them. How sad that they can't even check their final interview schedule before sending out mass rejections.
reed smith callback 10/4 at 9pm
which reed smith office?
reed smith sf
reed smith sf
Poll Question:
Should the title of this post remain the same or should it be changed to OCIPin on Gin n Juice? Don't feel you have to respond to this question, but just add a response after you list your offers for callbacks/go fuck yourself.
rejection 10/4
cleary ny
sidley ny
S&C ny
i like the "go fuck yourself."
I think Gin n Juice is a fine idea.
I also wouldn't mind Ocipin on crack/coke.
or
Ocipin and a speed ball.
or
Ocipin while candy flipping
or
Ociping while hippie flipping
or
Ocipin on quaaludes
Cristal is just such a dirty drug.
Umm, I meant this cristal
weil Redwood shores 10/5
Shartsis Friese callback by phone on 10/4.
The Bloods and the (O)CIPs
Chadbourne & Parke callback NYC by phone 10/5
what time did chabourne call?
Pillsbury LA callback yesterday
Thelen LA callback same day
WIlliams & Connolly, by phone, 10/5.
Covington DC, by cryptic voicemail, 10/5.
callbacks
pillsbury Sili Valley
dla sf
Quinn (RWS) 10/5 callback by phone
arnold& porter DC callback by phone
Farella rejection via mail dated 10/4 received 10/6.
Gordon Rees callback via email.
Rejections today, 10/6
Wilmer Cutler NY
Holland & Knight LA (I don't even remember interviewing with them)
10/6 Nixon Peabody (SF) call back
10/6 Gordon Rees rejection snail mail.
Farella rejection today (sent 10/4)
"In your case, our decision not to pursue further interviews was made all the more difficult by your excellent record."
I'm wondering if this is sincere or mere boilerplate?
I had been wondering the same thing.
The Farella statement is boilerplate. I got the same thing in mine.
Rejections 10/6:
Farella
MoFo - Walnut Creek
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10/7 Bingham rejection via mail.
Great day for rejections:
O'Melveny (Century City)
Perkins Coie (LA)
Fish and Richardson (SD)
sedgwick callback via phone 10/6 afternoon. Get this, they do one thirty minute session with 4 attorneys firing questions at you. How bizarre.
10/7 rejections
Debevoise
Kirkpatrick (SF)
Davis Polk (Menlo Park)
Latham SF rejection by mail, 10/7
rejections by snail mail 10/8:
parker miliken
mcdermott
shartsis
Finally got my Heller rejection by email. 10/9 by email.
Quinn Emmanuel rejection.
Thanked me for interviewing with the firm and letter from interviewer says he enjoyed "meeting with you" and "genuinely enjoyed speaking with you, and appreciate your taking the time to meet with us."
The funny part is that I had to miss the interview so their interviewer who sent the letter never met with me or talked to me.
skadden rejection by snail mail. interviewed for SF; letter is on PA stationary.
which Heller office for rejection?
just got a fenwick SF callback. And only a little under 4 weeks after I actually interviewed with them. Not bad.
orrick/sf called to confirm that I had an orrick/sv interview - then said goodbye....very subtle, hats off to orrick/sf!
Is there anyone else out there who hasn't recieved a callback yet or am I the only one?
i know you are not alone about not having callbacks.
fun day at the mail box today! Rejections from:
Hunton & Williams (NY)
Dechert (NY)
Chadbourne & Parke (NY)
SD office for Heller.
Holland Knight rejection by snail mail this weekend.
Milbank rejection from Palo Alto office. But the letter thanks me for considering opportunities in the Los Angeles office (which I didn't interview for).
Weirdest letter yet. Firm to remain nameless, to protect the innocent (me).
Paragraph 1: Thank you for interviewing.
Paragraph 2: We'd like to invite you to visit our Washington, D.C. office for more interviews.
Paragraph 3: We're sorry, but we do not intend to invite you back for an interview at our New York office (Hint: I never indicated I wanted to work in NYC.)
Paragraph 4: Please take advantage of the offer to visit D.C.
It was both a callback letter and a rejection letter, rolled into one! Oh, and they never actually "called", so I was kind of not expecting this callback... Hmm.
i got the same Milbank PA rejection but I expressed interest during the interview about working in the LA office.
King & Spalding (NY) callback today 10/12
Rejections today: Weil (NY), O'Melveny (NY), Squire Sanders (SF) who I cancelled my interview with by crossing my name off their list
rejection today from squire sanders sf
rejection today from Sidley - SF
anyone got a callback with Winston & Strawn -sf?
Callback: Foley & Lardner SF, 10/12 via email. Rejection: Dechert SF, 10/11.
Winston & Strawn SF callback by letter a while ago
Lozano Smith San Ramon callback this afternoon
hunton williams rejection by mail a couple of days ago.
hunton williams rejection by mail a couple of days ago.
still haven't heard from shook hardy, morgan lewis, & bngham LA.
anyone hear from these guys?
rejection by snail mail: reed smith oakland.
luce forward SD +
white & case LA +
Ross, Dixon & Bell SD +
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