Mundane Anticipation
If anyone else is checking bearfacts daily for new grades, this post is intended as a grade vigil.
I know Fried's Corp Finance & Bankruptcy and Rakowski's Trusts & Estates have been posted so far. What else?
I know Fried's Corp Finance & Bankruptcy and Rakowski's Trusts & Estates have been posted so far. What else?
posted by MRP at 9:32 AM
90 Comments:
I just checked and don't see my trust and estates grade. What gives?
What gives is that the professors have probably been instructed to grade 3Ls before everyone else, in violation of the Academic Rules which provide that 2Ls and 3Ls shall be on the same curve.
Does anyone know whether grades are updated once daily or are they updated as professors submit them (or when the register puts them into the system)?
I think grades are only updated once daily. I think it says this somewhere on the Bearfacts site, but I could be wrong.
Also, I was a 1L in Estates, and my grade is up. I doubt there was any rush to get the 1L grades up, so it seems like they should all be posted for that class.
Grades are up for Constructing the Corporate Deal (Professor Ross).
Grades for Secured Transactions (Kosel) are up.
frickey's legislation grades are up, as are biber's public lands law (for the 9 of us in there)
transnational legal ethics is up
Bochner's VC & IPO 255 Seminar is up.
Whatever petty complaints you all have about grades can't compare with my own. I took a class which ended in the middle of February, and have yet to see my grade. The class (Partnerships & LLCs) only had 15 people in it. Fuck!!! the prof could have graded 2 exams a week and been finished weeks ago. Seriously, I don't think that Boalt should let adjunct professors who are this delinquent come back to teach again.
Vetter's Civ Pro II is up
I *was* a 3L in Rakowski's T&E, and my grade isn't posted. :( That scares me.
10:55 here...
Actually, I *was* a 3L but I *am* a dumbass. Grade was posted in the appropriate place.
another 3L apparently not so swift from estates and trusts...how come I can't find it on bearfacts is there a diff place to look
Under "Academic Record" > "Current Term Grades" > make sure the box on the upper right corner of the page is displaying "Final Grades"
Thanks! what a friendly group ;)
Anything new on the grades front?
Sklansky's Crim Pro up today.
Who wants to bet that Amar's Con Law grades won't be up one second sooner than the last possible deadline for handing in grades?
When is that "last possible deadline"? Anyone know?
I think it's June 15th. I think that the spring 2007 exam memo on the school's website had that date.
From the Spring 2007 Exam Memo:
"Final grades are due from instructors by June 15, 2007... Grades can be viewed on BearFacts within days of the faculty submitting them online. Transcripts with Spring 2007 grades will not be available until mid-July."
So that means we can expect our grades, maybe what... around the second or third week of August?
Well, at least some professors have posted. I doubt most of mine will post early, though.
"can be viewed on BearFacts within days of the faculty submitting them online."
Amazing what this Internet is capable of nowadays...we can see grades just mere scores of hours after they are submitted electronically! It's almost as fast as the US Postal Service!
Grades have now moved to "Prior Term Grades" - Still no Antitrust...
Roman Law is up, for the four of us in that class.
copyright grades are now up. That hurt. wish I didn't study at all...would have gotten the same grade.
Question for the two of you who just posted (or anyone else)...so are grades actually being updated more than once daily, or did you check your grades for the first time during the afternoon?
I just want to know once and for all whether I should check more than just once a day.
I have been checking Bearfacts on a (near) hourly basis for the past two weeks (hey, I'm a bored summer associate) and any grades that I've gotten have only appeared first thing in the morning.
Still, hope springs eternal. It would be nice to get a final answer on this question, perhaps from the registrar.
tho' bearfacts says something like updated at 12 a.m. daily, a couple days ago i got up to take a leak at 3 a.m. and, thinking this statement was actually true, i thought, what the hell, i'll just check before staggering back to bed. no grade. 4 hrs. of sleep later, a grade was up.
This isn't as mysterious or confusing as people are making it out to be. Bear Facts updates only once a day, between 6 am and 6:30 PST.
property (van houweling) grades are up
I'm really sweating over grades this semester. I'm only 1 HH away from being able to opt out of the Bar Exam
Swift's Evidence is up
6:51AM: how do you know?
ANTITRUST UP!!!!
6:51 here. Perhaps princeton review taught me more reading comp and analytical reasoning than I thought. Reading bear facts will tell you that the site is updated once a day. Paying attention will tell you the date (upper right corner of the screen when you look at your grades) changes over to being the correct date between 6 and 6:30 (ie if you check before then it will still say it is yesterday -- this is where you bust out your anaylitical skills and realize it hasn't updated yet).
Dear 6:51:
I went to Bearfacts, and couldn't find the "updated once a day" info anywhere.
Additionally, thanks for letting us know that the basis of your knowledge is firsthand knowledge. I believe the whole point of 11:53AM's request. God knows there's enough people talking through their ass on this site, and there's no reason to get snippy in your response.
Last, you failed to mention what time zone you're in.
7:32, unless you're studying for the bar, get a grip. I'm sure there's some memo or e-mail from the registrar that says bearfacts is updated once a day. And it is common knowledge that the update happens early in the morning. Is that good enough for you? Are you still going to obsess and check 29 times between 4 pm and 4:15 pm?
Just consider yourself lucky that you don't have to deal with what we put up with the first two years. See here and here. Really, if there's anyone talking out their ass it's whiney snots like you who don't know the half of it.
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This morning, I woke up, and didn't like your tone of voice. Don't dick me around 1L.
Armen has started censoring posts he doesn't like on N&B. I knew it was just a matter of time.
For the record (which will probably be erased once Armen removes this post as well), the post Armen deleted was not defamatory, nor was it any more vulgar than many of Armen's posts. It was merely an expression of what someone would like Armen to do. And I happen to agree.
Too bad. I can do things you can't.
Armen has been censoring posts he doesn't like for a while now. I'm surprised he still allows anonymous posting.
M&A is up.
Armen has been censoring posts he doesn't like for a while now. I'm surprised he still allows anonymous posting.
I'm surprised too. There's absolutely no reason for me to provide YOU a forum to insult ME. Don't kid yourself, just because I'm keeping your post up doesn't mean you have anything legitimate to say. Just so happens you say it civilly.
Armen, is this your personal blog, or is it a blog about law and Boalt-related issues that you share with some of your classmates? Because I thought it was the latter. And if it's the former, nobody would be reading it because quite frankly, my dear, nobody gives a damn about what you think.
I don't give a rat's ass why or how anyone reads this. To quote the judge in My Cousin Vinny, "This isn't a forum for the cavalier." I've always insisted on civility and no the same rule does not apply to me. Wanna know why? Because I have my name to everything I say. The civility rule likewise does not apply to anyone else who uses their name to write. It does apply to the rest of you. So, to the extent I can enforce that rule, to the extent I and my co-bloggers put up with your bull shits, and to the extent I'm sick and tired of whiny assholes, then yes, it's a personal blog.
Well, I guess it had to happen...Bearfacts isn't working (at least for me). When you click on "prior term grades," it says a system exception has occurred. Whatever that means.
Ok, it works again. Maybe I was just in it during the update time.
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A cowardly display of self-righteous anonymity. You give Boalt students, and law students in general, a bad name.
I'm really not kidding about civility.
Armen, why do you hate freedom?
Why do you hate decency, kindness, civility, normmalcy, children, flowers, peace, love, the Beatles, God, the sun, and everything under it?
Armen, why does your sense of humor suck?
Because it can't physically suck and blow at the same time.
This blog is a joke. Who's going to start a new, uncensored blog that facilitates relevant discourse?
First: Be kind to Armen. He's studying for the freaking bar and there's no reason for him to be nice to anybody. (You're welcome Armen!)
Second: While you guys were being mean to Armen, Murphy's Crim Pro was posted yesterday. Enjoy.
Thank you 4:33, so are Guzman's Int'l Law.
Also, Armen must be freaking out because of what's happening to Ciolli and the AutoAdmit gang. Remember that Ciolli's Edwards and Angels offer was rescinded because of posts on his blog. And now there's the Yale lawsuit. As a result, Armen is squelching perfectly legitimate, non-offensive posts. It sucks, but that's what happens when you're a paranoid, insecure J.D. worried about losing your $160K firm job in LA.
Partly true. When the rescinded offer story first broke, I definitely had some moments of thought. My firm is fairly aware of the blog. Hell they changed their OCIP routine because of the OCIP threads. But even with the firm, I stand by things I say. I don't use a screen name like Ciolli. But the way that whole thing has affected my thinking is more subtle. I've noticed a huge difference in quality of comments on blogs that strictly enforce civility requirements (Leiter or Volokh) compared to free-for-all anonymous sites like autoadmit. The bottom line is I don't want this site to turn into that. Yet all indications are it was/is(?) turning to that. Constant links to this blog on autoadmit, the predictable trolls, and so on. If you think my uneasiness with anonymous comments is anything new, I really assure you, it's not. Plus it doesn't hurt to err on the side of caution. :)
Two things.....
1. Deals grades are up.
2. I don't think that this Blog has moved anywhere towards autoadmit. I think that the generall bitching about the less than civil nature of the comments has increased, but I don't think that the civility of the comments themselves have decreased.
Most commenters refrain from personal attacks, and those that don't, at least make logical points in the mix, unlike autoadmit where the bulk of comments are just offensive non-sequiters.
Property (peterson) is up.
Anybody know if grades uploaded today will refresh tomorrow morning and be visible? Or do we have to wait until Monday (/Tuesday)?
I am fairly certain that people have seen new grades on Saturdays before.
I've seen new grades go up on Saturday. But whether we're likely to see grades tomorrow or not depends on whether the June 15 deadline is only for raw scores (which need to be curved, sent back to the prof for final approval and adjustments, and re-submitted to the registrar), or whether profs are supposed to have the "final" grades in to the registrat by then.
The spring 2007 exam memo says that final grades from instructors are due on June 15, 2007. Then it says the Registrar will review them to make sure the percentages are accurate. So, even if they all are actually turned in today, the registrar's office might not get around to reviewing them all today.
Con. Law II (Reichman) up.
In a demo that grades do indeed post on Sat., Employment Law is up today.
So is Intro to IP
IP is up. On a Saturday no less...
For those who got grades today (Saturday), what does the "As of" date say? (upper right-hand corner of the window) I didn't get any new grades, but the date says "As of: June 15, 2007 12:00 AM." It usually changes over to the reflect the current date once grades are updated.
That's what mine says too, and I had a new grade this morning.
Thanks Ashley. Grrrr, some professors need to get their act together.
Bearfacts updated today between 6:32 and 6:40am PST.
Torts (Schwartz) is up.
Con Law (Vikram Amar) STILL NOT UP.
Contracts (eisenberg) is up
Con Law (Vikram Amar) STILL NOT UP.
6:56/7:38 --
Were you actually expecting Amar to deliver on time? His infrequent attendance should've clued you in to the fact his Boalt course is a low priority.
At this point, maybe this thread should become a Vikram Amar watch. Is any other prof still lagging?
Cabraser/McGovern's Complex Civ Lit class is still not up...
Appellate Advocacy and a seminar still not up...
Why am I not surprised that Complex Civil Lit. hasn't been posted? Most disorganized class I've ever had...
So I got on the phone and talked to a very nice woman in the registrar's office. (I'm not being sarcastic; she was actually friendly and willing to discuss my concerns.)
She told me that there's a problem with adjunct faculty being able to upload their grades directly to the system (Amar being one), so those instructors had to submit the grades to the registrar, but the registrar couldn't upload them directly to Bearfacts either (something to do with Boalt registrar and Bearfacts vs. main campus system...?) I'm extremely unclear on details or what the precise problem is, but the bottom line is that some grades have been submitted to the registrar, but won't be viewable until the grades are put on our official transcripts through the main UCB system. They hope to have this done around July 1, but she seemed doubtful of that goal.
Other professors simply haven't submitted grades, and the Dean has sent out a stern reminder to those instructors.
Also, I'd like to add that this bureaucratic mess really seems to be avoidable. Although I'm very unclear on the details of the problem, it seems to be that they simply haven't taken the time to come up with a workable system for releasing law school grades. There's really no reason why we couldn't 1) have a separate law-school specific system for releasing grades, or 2) communicate with the main UCB registrar or whoever is responsible for the glitches (according to the Boalt registrar) to work out the kinks in the system. The school also could give professors less time to grade exams and papers.
Undergrads' grades are released well before ours are, as evidenced by the "Transcripts with Spring 2007 grades will be available for release on June 7, 2007" message on the Bearfacts website.
Didn't something like this happen last semester?
Situation normal: all f**ked up.
Two of my posted grades are from adjunct professors.
The registrar did say that the problem uploading grades only affected some adjunct faculty. But again, details were very, very fuzzy.
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