Thursday, May 31, 2007

Mundane Anticipation

If anyone else is checking bearfacts daily for new grades, this post is intended as a grade vigil.

I know Fried's Corp Finance & Bankruptcy and Rakowski's Trusts & Estates have been posted so far. What else?

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90 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just checked and don't see my trust and estates grade. What gives?

5/31/2007 10:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What gives is that the professors have probably been instructed to grade 3Ls before everyone else, in violation of the Academic Rules which provide that 2Ls and 3Ls shall be on the same curve.

5/31/2007 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know whether grades are updated once daily or are they updated as professors submit them (or when the register puts them into the system)?

5/31/2007 11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think grades are only updated once daily. I think it says this somewhere on the Bearfacts site, but I could be wrong.

Also, I was a 1L in Estates, and my grade is up. I doubt there was any rush to get the 1L grades up, so it seems like they should all be posted for that class.

5/31/2007 11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grades are up for Constructing the Corporate Deal (Professor Ross).

5/31/2007 2:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grades for Secured Transactions (Kosel) are up.

5/31/2007 4:00 PM  
Blogger Tim said...

frickey's legislation grades are up, as are biber's public lands law (for the 9 of us in there)

5/31/2007 4:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

transnational legal ethics is up

6/01/2007 7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bochner's VC & IPO 255 Seminar is up.

6/01/2007 2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever petty complaints you all have about grades can't compare with my own. I took a class which ended in the middle of February, and have yet to see my grade. The class (Partnerships & LLCs) only had 15 people in it. Fuck!!! the prof could have graded 2 exams a week and been finished weeks ago. Seriously, I don't think that Boalt should let adjunct professors who are this delinquent come back to teach again.

6/01/2007 10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vetter's Civ Pro II is up

6/02/2007 9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I *was* a 3L in Rakowski's T&E, and my grade isn't posted. :( That scares me.

6/02/2007 10:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:55 here...

Actually, I *was* a 3L but I *am* a dumbass. Grade was posted in the appropriate place.

6/02/2007 10:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

another 3L apparently not so swift from estates and trusts...how come I can't find it on bearfacts is there a diff place to look

6/02/2007 2:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Under "Academic Record" > "Current Term Grades" > make sure the box on the upper right corner of the page is displaying "Final Grades"

6/02/2007 2:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks! what a friendly group ;)

6/02/2007 3:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anything new on the grades front?

6/06/2007 12:55 AM  
Blogger MRP said...

Sklansky's Crim Pro up today.

6/06/2007 6:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who wants to bet that Amar's Con Law grades won't be up one second sooner than the last possible deadline for handing in grades?

6/06/2007 8:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is that "last possible deadline"? Anyone know?

6/06/2007 8:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it's June 15th. I think that the spring 2007 exam memo on the school's website had that date.

6/06/2007 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the Spring 2007 Exam Memo:

"Final grades are due from instructors by June 15, 2007... Grades can be viewed on BearFacts within days of the faculty submitting them online. Transcripts with Spring 2007 grades will not be available until mid-July."

6/06/2007 9:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So that means we can expect our grades, maybe what... around the second or third week of August?

6/06/2007 9:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, at least some professors have posted. I doubt most of mine will post early, though.

6/06/2007 10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"can be viewed on BearFacts within days of the faculty submitting them online."

Amazing what this Internet is capable of nowadays...we can see grades just mere scores of hours after they are submitted electronically! It's almost as fast as the US Postal Service!

6/06/2007 9:41 PM  
Blogger MRP said...

Grades have now moved to "Prior Term Grades" - Still no Antitrust...

6/07/2007 6:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Roman Law is up, for the four of us in that class.

6/07/2007 12:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

copyright grades are now up. That hurt. wish I didn't study at all...would have gotten the same grade.

6/07/2007 1:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question for the two of you who just posted (or anyone else)...so are grades actually being updated more than once daily, or did you check your grades for the first time during the afternoon?

I just want to know once and for all whether I should check more than just once a day.

6/07/2007 2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been checking Bearfacts on a (near) hourly basis for the past two weeks (hey, I'm a bored summer associate) and any grades that I've gotten have only appeared first thing in the morning.

Still, hope springs eternal. It would be nice to get a final answer on this question, perhaps from the registrar.

6/07/2007 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tho' bearfacts says something like updated at 12 a.m. daily, a couple days ago i got up to take a leak at 3 a.m. and, thinking this statement was actually true, i thought, what the hell, i'll just check before staggering back to bed. no grade. 4 hrs. of sleep later, a grade was up.

6/07/2007 8:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isn't as mysterious or confusing as people are making it out to be. Bear Facts updates only once a day, between 6 am and 6:30 PST.

6/08/2007 6:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

property (van houweling) grades are up

6/08/2007 7:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm really sweating over grades this semester. I'm only 1 HH away from being able to opt out of the Bar Exam

6/08/2007 8:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Swift's Evidence is up

6/08/2007 8:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:51AM: how do you know?

6/08/2007 11:53 AM  
Blogger MRP said...

ANTITRUST UP!!!!

6/09/2007 8:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:51 here. Perhaps princeton review taught me more reading comp and analytical reasoning than I thought. Reading bear facts will tell you that the site is updated once a day. Paying attention will tell you the date (upper right corner of the screen when you look at your grades) changes over to being the correct date between 6 and 6:30 (ie if you check before then it will still say it is yesterday -- this is where you bust out your anaylitical skills and realize it hasn't updated yet).

6/10/2007 7:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear 6:51:

I went to Bearfacts, and couldn't find the "updated once a day" info anywhere.

Additionally, thanks for letting us know that the basis of your knowledge is firsthand knowledge. I believe the whole point of 11:53AM's request. God knows there's enough people talking through their ass on this site, and there's no reason to get snippy in your response.

Last, you failed to mention what time zone you're in.

6/10/2007 7:32 PM  
Blogger Armen said...

7:32, unless you're studying for the bar, get a grip. I'm sure there's some memo or e-mail from the registrar that says bearfacts is updated once a day. And it is common knowledge that the update happens early in the morning. Is that good enough for you? Are you still going to obsess and check 29 times between 4 pm and 4:15 pm?

Just consider yourself lucky that you don't have to deal with what we put up with the first two years. See here and here. Really, if there's anyone talking out their ass it's whiney snots like you who don't know the half of it.

6/10/2007 7:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/11/2007 7:52 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

This morning, I woke up, and didn't like your tone of voice. Don't dick me around 1L.

6/11/2007 8:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armen has started censoring posts he doesn't like on N&B. I knew it was just a matter of time.

For the record (which will probably be erased once Armen removes this post as well), the post Armen deleted was not defamatory, nor was it any more vulgar than many of Armen's posts. It was merely an expression of what someone would like Armen to do. And I happen to agree.

6/11/2007 9:37 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

Too bad. I can do things you can't.

6/11/2007 12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armen has been censoring posts he doesn't like for a while now. I'm surprised he still allows anonymous posting.

6/12/2007 5:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

M&A is up.

6/12/2007 7:09 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

Armen has been censoring posts he doesn't like for a while now. I'm surprised he still allows anonymous posting.

I'm surprised too. There's absolutely no reason for me to provide YOU a forum to insult ME. Don't kid yourself, just because I'm keeping your post up doesn't mean you have anything legitimate to say. Just so happens you say it civilly.

6/12/2007 9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armen, is this your personal blog, or is it a blog about law and Boalt-related issues that you share with some of your classmates? Because I thought it was the latter. And if it's the former, nobody would be reading it because quite frankly, my dear, nobody gives a damn about what you think.

6/12/2007 9:27 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

I don't give a rat's ass why or how anyone reads this. To quote the judge in My Cousin Vinny, "This isn't a forum for the cavalier." I've always insisted on civility and no the same rule does not apply to me. Wanna know why? Because I have my name to everything I say. The civility rule likewise does not apply to anyone else who uses their name to write. It does apply to the rest of you. So, to the extent I can enforce that rule, to the extent I and my co-bloggers put up with your bull shits, and to the extent I'm sick and tired of whiny assholes, then yes, it's a personal blog.

6/12/2007 9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I guess it had to happen...Bearfacts isn't working (at least for me). When you click on "prior term grades," it says a system exception has occurred. Whatever that means.

6/13/2007 6:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, it works again. Maybe I was just in it during the update time.

6/13/2007 7:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/14/2007 8:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A cowardly display of self-righteous anonymity. You give Boalt students, and law students in general, a bad name.

6/14/2007 8:49 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

I'm really not kidding about civility.

6/14/2007 9:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armen, why do you hate freedom?

6/14/2007 10:39 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

Why do you hate decency, kindness, civility, normmalcy, children, flowers, peace, love, the Beatles, God, the sun, and everything under it?

6/14/2007 10:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Armen, why does your sense of humor suck?

6/14/2007 11:12 AM  
Blogger Armen said...

Because it can't physically suck and blow at the same time.

6/14/2007 11:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This blog is a joke. Who's going to start a new, uncensored blog that facilitates relevant discourse?

6/14/2007 1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First: Be kind to Armen. He's studying for the freaking bar and there's no reason for him to be nice to anybody. (You're welcome Armen!)

Second: While you guys were being mean to Armen, Murphy's Crim Pro was posted yesterday. Enjoy.

6/14/2007 4:33 PM  
Blogger Armen said...

Thank you 4:33, so are Guzman's Int'l Law.

6/14/2007 5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, Armen must be freaking out because of what's happening to Ciolli and the AutoAdmit gang. Remember that Ciolli's Edwards and Angels offer was rescinded because of posts on his blog. And now there's the Yale lawsuit. As a result, Armen is squelching perfectly legitimate, non-offensive posts. It sucks, but that's what happens when you're a paranoid, insecure J.D. worried about losing your $160K firm job in LA.

6/14/2007 6:12 PM  
Blogger Armen said...

Partly true. When the rescinded offer story first broke, I definitely had some moments of thought. My firm is fairly aware of the blog. Hell they changed their OCIP routine because of the OCIP threads. But even with the firm, I stand by things I say. I don't use a screen name like Ciolli. But the way that whole thing has affected my thinking is more subtle. I've noticed a huge difference in quality of comments on blogs that strictly enforce civility requirements (Leiter or Volokh) compared to free-for-all anonymous sites like autoadmit. The bottom line is I don't want this site to turn into that. Yet all indications are it was/is(?) turning to that. Constant links to this blog on autoadmit, the predictable trolls, and so on. If you think my uneasiness with anonymous comments is anything new, I really assure you, it's not. Plus it doesn't hurt to err on the side of caution. :)

6/14/2007 6:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two things.....

1. Deals grades are up.

2. I don't think that this Blog has moved anywhere towards autoadmit. I think that the generall bitching about the less than civil nature of the comments has increased, but I don't think that the civility of the comments themselves have decreased.

Most commenters refrain from personal attacks, and those that don't, at least make logical points in the mix, unlike autoadmit where the bulk of comments are just offensive non-sequiters.

6/15/2007 8:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Property (peterson) is up.

Anybody know if grades uploaded today will refresh tomorrow morning and be visible? Or do we have to wait until Monday (/Tuesday)?

6/15/2007 8:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am fairly certain that people have seen new grades on Saturdays before.

6/15/2007 10:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen new grades go up on Saturday. But whether we're likely to see grades tomorrow or not depends on whether the June 15 deadline is only for raw scores (which need to be curved, sent back to the prof for final approval and adjustments, and re-submitted to the registrar), or whether profs are supposed to have the "final" grades in to the registrat by then.

6/15/2007 10:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The spring 2007 exam memo says that final grades from instructors are due on June 15, 2007. Then it says the Registrar will review them to make sure the percentages are accurate. So, even if they all are actually turned in today, the registrar's office might not get around to reviewing them all today.

6/15/2007 10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Con. Law II (Reichman) up.

6/15/2007 1:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a demo that grades do indeed post on Sat., Employment Law is up today.

6/16/2007 7:46 AM  
Blogger Ashley said...

So is Intro to IP

6/16/2007 8:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IP is up. On a Saturday no less...

6/16/2007 8:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those who got grades today (Saturday), what does the "As of" date say? (upper right-hand corner of the window) I didn't get any new grades, but the date says "As of: June 15, 2007 12:00 AM." It usually changes over to the reflect the current date once grades are updated.

6/16/2007 8:55 AM  
Blogger Ashley said...

That's what mine says too, and I had a new grade this morning.

6/16/2007 8:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Ashley. Grrrr, some professors need to get their act together.

6/16/2007 9:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bearfacts updated today between 6:32 and 6:40am PST.

6/18/2007 6:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Torts (Schwartz) is up.

6/19/2007 6:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Con Law (Vikram Amar) STILL NOT UP.

6/19/2007 6:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Contracts (eisenberg) is up

6/19/2007 9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Con Law (Vikram Amar) STILL NOT UP.

6/20/2007 7:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:56/7:38 --

Were you actually expecting Amar to deliver on time? His infrequent attendance should've clued you in to the fact his Boalt course is a low priority.

6/20/2007 12:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At this point, maybe this thread should become a Vikram Amar watch. Is any other prof still lagging?

6/21/2007 7:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cabraser/McGovern's Complex Civ Lit class is still not up...

6/21/2007 7:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Appellate Advocacy and a seminar still not up...

6/21/2007 10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why am I not surprised that Complex Civil Lit. hasn't been posted? Most disorganized class I've ever had...

6/21/2007 10:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So I got on the phone and talked to a very nice woman in the registrar's office. (I'm not being sarcastic; she was actually friendly and willing to discuss my concerns.)

She told me that there's a problem with adjunct faculty being able to upload their grades directly to the system (Amar being one), so those instructors had to submit the grades to the registrar, but the registrar couldn't upload them directly to Bearfacts either (something to do with Boalt registrar and Bearfacts vs. main campus system...?) I'm extremely unclear on details or what the precise problem is, but the bottom line is that some grades have been submitted to the registrar, but won't be viewable until the grades are put on our official transcripts through the main UCB system. They hope to have this done around July 1, but she seemed doubtful of that goal.

Other professors simply haven't submitted grades, and the Dean has sent out a stern reminder to those instructors.

6/21/2007 11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, I'd like to add that this bureaucratic mess really seems to be avoidable. Although I'm very unclear on the details of the problem, it seems to be that they simply haven't taken the time to come up with a workable system for releasing law school grades. There's really no reason why we couldn't 1) have a separate law-school specific system for releasing grades, or 2) communicate with the main UCB registrar or whoever is responsible for the glitches (according to the Boalt registrar) to work out the kinks in the system. The school also could give professors less time to grade exams and papers.

Undergrads' grades are released well before ours are, as evidenced by the "Transcripts with Spring 2007 grades will be available for release on June 7, 2007" message on the Bearfacts website.

6/21/2007 11:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't something like this happen last semester?

Situation normal: all f**ked up.

6/21/2007 12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two of my posted grades are from adjunct professors.

6/21/2007 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The registrar did say that the problem uploading grades only affected some adjunct faculty. But again, details were very, very fuzzy.

6/21/2007 12:47 PM  

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